Key Post UK State Pension - Make voluntary contributions to qualify for UK pension on top of Irish pension

I'm just curious, I've completed the form CF83 online ( just 2 weeks ago ) and I can see it on the website as being completed - how long before they get back to me telling me what to do next? whether I'm Class 2 or not? how many years I can buy back?

thanks
 
partnership said:
You cannot combine contributions. You will get a pension from each country.
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Yes I know about the British one but the Irish one is less clear. It’s hard to find info online as to if my years in Uk will go towards my Irish one also. As I won’t have the 40 years on retirement
 
The Irish Social Welfare will calculate your pension entitlements as the higher of

1. Your pension entitlement based solely on your Irish PRSI contribution

2. Your pension entitlement based on your total pension contributions in Ireland, the UK and the EU. This amount will be reduced by the proportion of your pension payments in Ireland to the total of your pension payments in total
In most cases, this will be inferior to the amount in 1.
 
Edited as part answered. For questions on "due to law changes...call us" is covered in thread (search shortfall)

Remaing question; I got the letter it says accepted for class 2 on page one, then on page 2 it shows a table with a number of years with title class 3 NIC shortfall rates. Is this normal? I expect to be class 2 and that page 1 is correct. It also provides no "next steps" comment
 
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Sorry now if this has been answered but I have read and don’t remember seeing this. I registered for HRMC in November 2023. I have 5 years. I got my ass in gear in June 2024 filled out CF83 with a letter and my Irish credit list to back up and it was received on the 8th July. I received this yesterday. Online it shows completed. I thought I’d be waiting months. The letter clearly says I should be filling out a CF83, which I already did. Should I be waiting for them the get to my CF83 and then send me a list of years from 2006 that I can buy back? Or does this mean they don’t have the CF83 I sent? My intention if I could was to pay for as many years as I could now at class 2 and then do it annually. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Zi
 

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That's odd, to me in any case.

When I received my letter it included a table listing each year from 2006 and the fact that I was eligible to pay at class 2 for each of them. That said I'm pretty sure I remember at least one person posting that they received 2 letters in quick succession.
 
Ah possibly. I can’t believe I’ve had any response so quickly and only received this yesterday so might get another letter next week. Delighted to be allowed to pay class 2 going forward. Do I go ahead and start paying annually and let the other stuff happen when it happens? Obviously I will phone or message in a couple of weeks if I don’t get another letter.
 
OMG I’m a clown, but in fairness to me I’m away with the kids and my husband sent me the pics when I asked him to open the letter. This was on the back of page 1. Happy days… Sorry for wasting peoples time! I can’t get over how quick this was, great thread.
 

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Lastl, can anybody direct me to the post where somebody transferred through revolut to the HRMC account? This seems to me to be the easiest, I can add up and have the exact uk amount on Revolut before I transfer.
 
Zizigirl said:
2000/2001/2002.
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Hi just out of interest as I am in a very similar position to yourself, did you actually work those full 3 years in UK? just that they allowed you pay at class2 thats all, Im just trying to figure out how they differentiate. I also qualified to pay at class 3 and I worked in ireland on return from Uk but I actually didn't work a full 3 years in UK only less than 2 years .
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joe sod said:
Hi just out of interest as I am in a very similar position to yourself, did you actually work those full 3 years in UK? just that they allowed you pay at class2 thats all, Im just trying to figure out how they differentiate. I also qualified to pay at class 3 and I worked in ireland on return from Uk but I actually didn't work a full 3 years in UK only less than 2 years .
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I worked from sometime in the summer of 2000 to the end of the summer 2002, I was lucky that it spanned over 3 calendar years and 3 uk tax years. I also worked in Ireland during that time according to the documents I sent them, that was seasonal bar work when I went home to visit.
 
Zizigirl said:
I worked from sometime in the summer of 2000 to the end of the summer 2002, I was lucky that it spanned over 3 calendar years and 3 uk tax years. I also worked in Ireland during that time according to the documents I sent them, that was seasonal bar work when I went home to visit.
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that must be it, i worked around the same time from early 2000 to summer 2001 so I probably fell short for class 2 on that basis. If I had known all those years ago it was worth my while staying on for another year but then I doubt pension payments would have had that much sway on my younger self. Actually I remember a conversation with an english colleague back then and he was talking about his work pension entitlements, I thought he was really crazy to be thinking about all that in his mid 20s.
 
I actually have another question, so if I buy 15 years now (be circa €3k and I will have 20 years credits then), 2006-2020 and the next year on the list says I have until 5th April 2028 to pay. Can I just not do anything until maybe end 2027 and decide if I’d like to keep purchasing? Or do I have to keep up the annual payment?
 
Zizigirl said:
OMG I’m a clown, but in fairness to me I’m away with the kids and my husband sent me the pics when I asked him to open the letter. This was on the back of page 1. Happy days… Sorry for wasting peoples time! I can’t get over how quick this was, great thread.
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useful to see your screen shot as it lists class 2 payments, while mine shows class3, despite page 1 saying eligible class 2
 
I called up, 30 second wait time, and immediate confirmation of class 2 and error on page 2 of letter showing class 3. New letter being issued.

What is the underlying logic of this scheme? Why does it exist, given how generous it feels I am presuming some of us are operating as edge cases but the primary beneficiaries are someone else?
 
Ooh I might call to confirm account details for paying by Revolut if wait times are low! Thanks
 
Today I received my letter from Revenue after only sending the form in just over 2 weeks ago - so fast.
It says I can pay from 2006 up to the present with most payments per year being 163.80 pounds.
My intention is to pay a lump sum and be done with it.

I have a question......
On my letter it says ' to find out if your state pension will increase after you've paid voluntary NIC's , you must phone the pension service on ( numbers given) Due to changes in the law, you need the pension service to confirm whether your state pension will increase if you pay any shortfall'

Now I can ring, but can anyone shed any light on this for me please?

Thanks
 
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