Gordon Gekko
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You’d need to be earning a hell of a lot to be paying over half your total income in taxes!
You’d need to be earning a hell of a lot to be paying over half your total income in taxes!I pay over half my total income in taxes. I then pay VAT when I buy stuff with what's left. I've no big problem with the amount of tax I pay though I'd rather see lower taxes on work and higher taxes on wealth. My problem is with how much of our taxes are wasted by State bodies and agencies. This is particularly the case in our extremely well funded health service but applies pretty much across the board. I have no expectation that increasing taxes would result in any material improvement in services or in society.
The discussion should be "Should the State and its employees waste less of our taxes in order to have a better society". The answer to that is an emphatic yes. But please don't just blame the government and the politicians. The problem is thousands of little problems, knitted into the structures of the Civil and Public Sectors and State funded service providers (including the HSE and everyone paid by it). Those people, to a lesser or greater extent, are to blame and are responsible.
I know!You’d need to be earning a hell of a lot to be paying over half your total income in taxes!
About €2m a year salary to breach 50%…I know!
I'm very lucky.
About €2m a year salary to breach 50%…
I actually pay just under 50% but by the time I've subsidised the public health system by paying for private health insurance it goes over 50%.About €2m a year salary to breach 50%…
Imagine local councillors controlling policing in a country where many councillors are affiliated to a movement that not so long ago murdered policemen.Electing councillors who raise taxes may result in new community centres, sports facilities, parks, playgrounds etc. it may even result in hiring more police in your area.
Few if any of them were as late as last weekend attending large commemorations for murderous "martyrs".Well, the respectable FF/FG parties were involved in a brutally murderous civil war only 100 years ago.
Egregiously sectarian politicians and egregiously racist politicians pointing fingers at one another is a fun game.But while we're at it, let's not forget the openly racist councillors that are now being elected, presumably by equally racist constituents.
In my town we've got a new athletics track, all weather hockey pitch, skateboard park, approval for a new community centre and a refurbed playground in the last 18 months, and all funded fully or partially through central funding. In the last 3 years, we've got a brand new secondary school, and 3 others have either built an extension or have funding and are simply waiting to put shovels in the ground once contracts are signedI’m willing to pay more tax for better public services. However I would like to be able to see such public service changes. However this can be very tricky when dealing with the complexities of national budgets.
Elsewhere in the world where far greater decision making and tax raising ability sits a local government level it is possible to see the changes in a relatively short period of time.
Electing councillors who raise taxes may result in new community centres, sports facilities, parks, playgrounds etc. it may even result in hiring more police in your area.
The Irish to that is electing either a TD who gets a nice minister role or better yet an independent who’s vote the government may need to rely on from time to time.
In my experience the sectarian ones are also the racist ones, in the same party, just about kept in check by their masters in Belfast (who are also racist and sectarian but are playing the long game so pretend otherwise).Egregiously sectarian politicians and egregiously racist politicians pointing fingers at one another is a fun game.
Many of their icons and heroes were terribly racist. Among the prominent examples is Dan Breen, the Nazi sympathiser and collaborator who attended a Nazi spy's funeral in Deansgrange in May 1947 by which time the Irish people were well aware of the scale of the Holocaust.In my experience the sectarian ones are also the racist ones, in the same party, just about kept in check by their masters in Belfast (who are also racist and sectarian but are playing the long game so pretend otherwise).
A party built on sectarianism and division, built on it to the extent that murdering the children of those that aren't in your tribe is not just acceptable but heroic, is hardly going to be anything other than sectarian and racist at its core.Many of their icons and heroes were terribly racist. Among the prominent examples is Dan Breen, the Nazi sympathiser and collaborator who attended a Nazi spy's funeral in Deansgrange in May 1947 by which time the Irish people were well aware of the scale of the Holocaust.
In my town we've got a new athletics track, all weather hockey pitch, skateboard park, approval for a new community centre and a refurbed playground in the last 18 months, and all funded fully or partially through central funding. In the last 3 years, we've got a brand new secondary school, and 3 others have either built an extension or have funding and are simply waiting to put shovels in the ground once contracts are signed
Meanwhile, the genuises in the Council have started refurbing one of the main roads leading to 5 schools in the town on the week the kids go back to school causing utter havoc.
Pay more tax for a better society or foot the bill for extra bicycle sheds costing €340k each for our politicians ?
Lower taxes won't incentivise people to work more overtime or come here and work? There are tens of thousands of people with construction skills on the live register. I think that reducing welfare will change that somewhat.It is difficult to get a builder because there are not enough of them around. No lower tax will change that.
Taxes are lower there. That's the big attraction. Anyway, there is negligible net immigration of Irish nurses and doctors. We have a shortage of nurses who want to work full time. I think that it is reasonable to suppose that a generous welfare system and high taxes contribute to that.It is difficult to get doctors and nurses because the pay is better in Abu Dhabi or Down Under. No lower tax will change that either.
I do not know about any large numbers of doctors, nurses or builders on the dole because it is "more attractive"
Is that aimed at me?Honestly getting sick of coming onto a finance website and listening to the same virtue signalling about racism in multiple threads from the same few posters. We get it, you are good generous people, you are fantastic.
Could you not take this to reddit and stick to finance here.
That's great for your area that you have the pulling power from central government to get that. However regarding funding of sports facilities too much favouritism is given to gaa, so you have a gaa pitch with great facilities etc but only available for gaa games. Now many people would like to play other sports not gaa, especially as they get older. Now fair enough the gaa will do alot of their own fund raising but there is only really room for one sports facility in most places. Most countries you will see just one facility for football , athletics etc so everyone can use them not just specific sports like gaamy town we've got a new athletics track, all weather hockey pitch, skateboard park, approval for a new community centre and a refurbed playground in the last 18 months, and all funded fully or partially through central funding. I
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