You'd have to be an idiot not to
The question you need to ask is whether you would rather hire a well-qualified black foreign engineer ahead of a well-qualified white Irish one, if both had exactly the same qualifications, experience etc etc.
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You'd have to be an idiot not to
The question you need to ask is whether you would rather hire a well-qualified black foreign engineer ahead of a well-qualified white Irish one, if both had exactly the same qualifications, experience etc etc.
He got it in one!
It would depend on what experience they had etc.
Anyway, that's not what Captain Beaky said. He said "Different nationalities have their strong and weak points. You allocate work in this way. It may not be 100% but, hey, it was not a voyage of discovery in humanities but purely empirical." That means that he doesn't hire based on skill, he picks based on race/ colour. Maybe he'd interview all the white applicants but the black guys (or gals) wouldn't get a look-in.
No it doesn't but that's not what Capt. Beaky said.
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Purple, do you not know what 'empirical' means?
'Empirical' - Relying on or derived from observation or experiment, i.e. not theoretically based.
In the case of your post "Different nationalities have their strong and weak points. You allocate work in this way. It may not be 100% but, hey, it was not a voyage of discovery in humanities but purely empirical." it can only mean that in your experience the generality of national characteristics that you have observed allows you to pre-judge people you meet from those nations, prejudicing your view of the work to which they are suited.
… do you know what ‘empirical’ means?
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Cannot answer you at the mo as am watching Ch 4 Dispatches. Methinks it might be suitable viewing for your good self 
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empirical But Old Mr. Webster, New Oxford, Longmans, New Cambridge, EB et al could explain it in a monosyllable - 'experience' ......... To me 'empirical' is what you get from experience. Not theory, EXPERIENCE. Do you hear me down there! Didn't see any skins down around Tower Hamlets on Dispatches. Did you?
Now please give this post back to the OP - am developing a slight headache.
Didn't see any skins down around Tower Hamlets on Dispatches. Did you?Now please give this post back to the OP - am developing a slight headache.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/empirical But Old Mr. Webster, New Oxford, Longmans, New Cambridge, EB et al could explain it in a monosyllable - 'experience' ......... To me 'empirical' is what you get from experience. Not theory, EXPERIENCE. Do you hear me down there!
Now please give this post back to the OP - am developing a slight headache.
So “In my experience those blacks can’t be trusted” is a legitimate reason not to hire black people. In fact following your logic as long as a comment is prefaced with “In my experience” you can pretty much say what you like. Thankfully the law disagrees with you.
I’m not a fan of collectivism, be it in the form of socialism, religion or racism. I believe in the rights and responsibilities of the individual and I am in favour of laws that facilitate the individual thriving or failing based on their own actions. Therefore I am against racism, or any other form of bigotry that impedes any individual due to preconceptions about what their abilities might be.
By the way, there are many reasons why particular ethnic groups become ghettoised. In some cases it has to do with their own racism as much as any cultural, educational or economic barriers, but only a simpleton would suggest it has anything to do with the amount of melanin in their skin, the shape of their nose, or the geographic location of their birth.
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Another paroxysmal rush to judgement!
Quoting words from the dictionary and shoving them into sentences does not make you more intelligent. Better to be silent and thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
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Capt. Beaky
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Yaweh, I've been rumbled . (Note, all these words can be found in most dictionaries).
. (Note, all these words can be found in most dictionaries).You might well be right.
Where was the other one?
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If I had't read the earlier posts I would have assumed that you were quoting a poster by your use of quotation marks. So, is that's not a rush to judgement ......... by insinuation? Am merely trying to show from one of your posts as I don't need any more inverted Pharasees chasing me. However, if you've got the time to trawl through earlier posts - in an unbiased fashion - you'll know what I mean.
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Where's the other one? Jeez, you have two for the price of one in this post
Why not try answering the last few posts?
I'm trying to understand how pre-judging a race of people based on your experience doesn't just mean that your experience has made you racist and if you think it is OK for others to do the same.
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Not wanting to get embroiled further ......... lets say, if I had to pick 15 gaa football players under 16 years and, on the blind, had to choose from Kilkenny or Kerry ........ afraid I'd have to go for the latter. Kinda empirical, if you get my drift! If, on the other hand, I had to pick 15 gaa hurlers under 16, and the same conditions applied ....... then I'd choose the former. I could be totally wrong with the results but, the idea suggests that I had reason to follow my instinct. Was afraid to mention nationalities lest I appear racist. In advance I apologise to Kilkenny football aficionados (sorry about the 11 letter word Jim - Googling will explain) and Ditto for Kerry hurlers. In fact to anyone that gets miffed by my presumptions. And I apologise to myself for ever getting involved in this one