Blackrock1
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Fair enough. I hate all SUV's and think they give a horrible driving experience. It's like driving a Transet but not as much fun. If you need it for offroad and for some reason can't use an X-Drive BMW, Audi Quattro etc then but one but they are smaller inside, have bugger all boot space, don't handle well, are expensive to run and are an environmental disaster.
If you drive on roads all the time there is zero reason to own one.
No, a large saloon car. The wheel arches make much of the boot space impractical and also eat into the rear cabin space. The Skode Superb has 625L of boot space. The BMW X5 has 645 but the Skode is much more usable due to its shape. The Skoda is about half the price, cheaper to run, available in 4X4, has comparable safety ratings and is nicer to drive unless you have small-man syndrome and need to be high-up.Sorry smaller inside and bugger all boot space compared to what? an equivalent estate?
No, a large saloon car. The wheel arches make much of the boot space impractical and also eat into the rear cabin space. The Skode Superb has 625L of boot space. The BMW X5 has 645 but the Skode is much more usable due to its shape. The Skoda is about half the price, cheaper to run, available in 4X4, has comparable safety ratings and is nicer to drive unless you have small-man syndrome and need to be high-up.
I picked the X5 as it'a a large SUV. The smaller ones have really small boots.so you exaggerated when you said bugger all boot space
I have driven an M50D and it's very nice to drive but not €115,000 nice. The standard MSport version is about €95,000. You could get a 540iM for €15,000 less than that which would wipe the floor with it in every regard other than boot space (and usability still comes into that). It's even 4 wheel drive!most cars dont stack up against a skoda superb if space is a primary concern, but people will always wanta premium marque, most superbs are seen as taxis to be honest, and its not any better to drive than a sorted SUV, have you driven an msport x5 or a porsche macan or a jag f-type? they arent bad at all, as good as most normal saloons.
I've 4 kids and I disagree. If you want practical get a people mover.only recently started buying suvs, and im well over 6 foot so its not make myself feel biggerbut they do work better with a young family, thats why you see so many on a school run.
I picked the X5 as it'a a large SUV. The smaller ones have really small boots.
I have driven an M50D and it's very nice to drive but not €115,000 nice. The standard MSport version is about €95,000. You could get a 540iM for €15,000 less than that which would wipe the floor with it in every regard other than boot space (and usability still comes into that). It's even 4 wheel drive!
You'd get a very good saloon car for €50k. You won't get much of an SUV for that money.
I've 4 kids and I disagree. If you want practical get a people mover.
Absolutely. Freedom of choice and all that.its the want is the issue !
I like EV's and I think and hope they are the future but at present there is no way that they are a better driving experience.
Exactly, never was there a proper sports car where they added 500kg to make it handle better!
I bet the 911 is a better drive.porsche taycan seems to be decent reviews,
where there is a will and all that.
I bet the 911 is a better drive.
When I'm in the market to spend €100k plus on a car this thread will be useful.thats debatable, sound is an element you will miss and one that makes people feel more involved, but by all accounts the taycan fares very well, and is much more practical to boot
I think we’re in agreement tbh, you’re clearly an experienced enthusiast and people saying the Tesla ModelS is as plush as a top-end Mercedes or handles as well as a decent BMW in sportier driving situations is infuriating.I used to travel a lot so I rented cars nearly every week. Over the course of a few years I drove dozens of different cars. How they corner, how they feel on different road surfaces etc all contributes to the driving experience. I've only driven a few EV's and nothing in the €70K bracket but in normal driving conditions I found them dull and boring. Dull like VW's kind of dull; well built and all that but just disappointing to drive relative to say a BMW or even a Ford.
they still have to cover the cost of the car in the rentalthey have a new ID plan, no deposit pcp effectively, you effectively rent it, another option.
obviously they will hardly give it to you for freethey still have to cover the cost of the car in the rental
porsche taycan seems to be decent reviews,
where there is a will and all that.
It may do, but there is no question that cutting a few hundred kilos of weight would allow it corner and brake much more effectively.
If I went PCP route does the 'future value' protect against dinosaur ownership?
Evs brake better actually whatever way the regen is set up but yes agree on cornering
No, they don't. Traction is the limiting factor that doesn't care about the propulsion method, it all comes down to weight and rate of deceleration. EVs end up needing bigger brakes and increased tyre contact areas to compensate for the negative effects the extra weight have on braking performance.
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