Sit In at the Passport Office

[thedaras]

Throwing in ,its a them versus us ,is a complete and utter red herring.

Any workers who behaved like this would be seen in exactly the same light by those who need the service.

I am dellighted to hear of a full out strike at the passport office lets see how long their stance will last when they are getting no money.

It will show us how the country and who the country is run by.The government or the unions.

If the government bow to the unions ,then we must get rid of FF.

The government need to take this on,once and for all.

I hope they do and I hope the workers and unions finally get the cop on needed.

If the government back down,they are history.

It has been a major own goal by the workers and the unions.

 

[jhegarty]

Given the fact that the majority of those represented by the CPSU are low paid public servants, the only avenue we have is to withdraw our labour and as a consequence the public will be affected.

You could go on strike.

 

[Firefly]

On the Air Traffic Controllers stike thread I asked if the government had a plan B. The issuing of passports is hardly rocket science. I wonder should the government introduce contingency plans to shift this backlog, say for example, send them across the water?

 

[Caveat]

I would think that there would be laws never mind genuine security concerns around one country processing the passport applications of another.

 

[SteveW9]

I would think that there would be laws never mind genuine security concerns around one country processing the passport applications of another.

still probably do a better job than Ireland

 

[Purple]

I would think that there would be laws never mind genuine security concerns around one country processing the passport applications of another.

That's been covered

 

[liaconn]

You're actually making me laugh now.

What exactly was the WTR supposed to indicate then?

Oh for God's sake, Its A Work To Rule. In order to express their dissatisfaction they are working to the letter of their contract as opposed to the flexibility they normally offer. I seriously think you're trying to wind me up.

 

[thedaras]

So you dont want any passports issued ?

The quote above ,to me, sums up the attitude of some of the public service employees.

Its a "when did you stop beating your wife" question.

Its as if they are giving us a choice,either we hold up your passport ,or you get none at all,where in the private sector would you get that attitude and get away with it ?
Please enlighten me?

We are entitled to a passport.

I know this type of quote is used by public service workers in depts where you may have had to ask an extra question or make a query or challange their attitudes.They come up with the line,do you want the form/call put through etc or not.

It shows us that they have so much confidence in not being reprimanded as
no where else would someone get away with this .

To use an example,say I went into a dry cleaners and they said to me as I went to collect my laundry, Do you want your clothes or not?..It is confrontational and aggressive.

I have seen it used in negotiations with unions,and it really shows real ignorance.

 

[becky]

You could go on strike.

I think that's what he means.

 

[RonanC]

The quote above ,to me, sums up the attitude of some of the public service employees.

And you ignore the rest of my comments...

 

[Caveat]

That's been covered

Thanks.

Great - why not then?

Oh for God's sake, Its A Work To Rule. In order to express their dissatisfaction they are working to the letter of their contract as opposed to the flexibility they normally offer.

Er, yes.

So therefore, in contrast to your claim that private sector workers are the ones making a big deal about going beyond their job descriptions, the whole concept of the WTR is the public sector doing precisely that in the first place!

They are saying "Look at us - this is all we really should be doing but in reality we do so much more and aren't appreciated" - are they not?

 

[DublinTexas]

I would think that there would be laws never mind genuine security concerns around one country processing the passport applications of another.

The German Bundesdruckerei (which funny enough was in private ownership until about 1 year ago) has/had contracts to produce passports for other countries like Venezuela, Albania or Romania, as they were the 1st company to introduce the new 2nd generation ePassports for example.

And if our public service goes on strike, maybe we could ask Israel to assist for a while, they seem to be able to do Irish passports too.

But I think this whole story brings up another point beside the previous public sector is unhappy discussion, why are we not joining the Schengen agreement?

For years now people traveling from Ireland to their fellow EU countries are subjected to passport control. I can travel from Iceland (not even in the EU) through Switzerland (another non EU country) to Italy without showing my ID at any passport control but from Dublin to Amsterdam I have to show ID because we are not in Schengen. We could save money, time and feel rewarded for our bribed 2nd Yes to Lisbon if we just would join Schengen.

 

[liaconn]

Janey. Private Sector people on here were stating that, 'unlike' the Public Sector, they don't stick rigidly to their job description. I was stating that this is not actually 'unlike' the Public Sector when the public sector is working as normal. The reason they are sticking rigidly to them now is because they are on industrial action, so it is an exception to the way they normally behave, not typical of their normal attitude towards their job description.

 

[jhegarty]

why are we not joining the Schengen agreement?

I think it would mean us putting up a proper border with passport controls between here and the north.

 

[Purple]

I think it would mean us putting up a proper border with passport controls between here and the north.

That would slow down the shoppers. Perfect!

 

[thedaras]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RonanC
And you ignore the rest of my comments...

The comment I quoted, was to show the attitude which I have seen at first hand.

 

[DB74]

That would slow down the shoppers. Perfect!

Then what would the passport office workers do on the strike days!

 

[Cityliving]

Dear passport office workers,

I get it. Your annoyed. Your conditions of work has changed and you`ve done your job well as you see it, possibly even for years, and you feel you should be left well enough alone. You prob dont get paid a huge salary and its a killer getting cuts.

We all get it. As in reality most of us are suffering (I have no job now myself). The thing is when I suffer, my family might suffer, my friends hear about it and then thats about it.

You`re suffering and what you`re causing is suffering to many multiples of people - funerals, weddings, once in a lifetime holidays, jobs interviews, ill parents and family members, meeting your kids after months away working as no work for you here and so on.

There can be no excuse for what you are doing. You know in your hearts you wont get your money back as there is no money to give. You are just expressing anger that you feel and the shower around the corner. I express it too, over a pint and when I realise I have to emigrate from my home.

I know its tough but its tough for everyone. If its so bad then just quit and let someone else do it for us, PLEASE.

 

[Caveat]

Janey. Private Sector people on here were stating that, 'unlike' the Public Sector, they don't stick rigidly to their job description.

Ah well that's a bit different then.

 

[Bill Struth]

Then what would the passport office workers do on the strike days!

My sides.