Who will form the next government? - The results

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The only person who can call another election is the Taoiseach. If the next Dáil can't elect a new one, that's Leo and there's no constitutional limit for how long that could last.
 
Purple said:
I think there will be another election within 6 months and the Shinners will get over 50 seats. Hopefully they won't burn down the Reichstag after that.
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Unless they get to 81, it's moot. The parties who want to avoid the stink of coalescing with SF will likely want to avoid it when SF have a larger parliamentary party.
 
TarfHead said:
Unless they get to 81, it's moot. The parties who want to avoid the stink of coalescing with SF will likely want to avoid it when SF have a larger parliamentary party.
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SF don't need to get to 81. They just need enough seats to make a coalition of the left viable. It is too fractured at the moment to make it work but it would be interesting in another election with them running more candidates. Even though, I doubt we would see the same vote again.
 
Sunny said:
SF don't need to get to 81. They just need enough seats to make a coalition of the left viable. It is too fractured at the moment to make it work but it would be interesting in another election with them running more candidates. Even though, I doubt we would see the same vote again.
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They'd probably make gains at the expense of some of the other far left parties but they would certainly take seats from FF and FG. If they just held the vote they got this time they'd get well over 40 seats.

And remember folks, Long live the Revolution!
Tá ár lá tagtha!!
 
TarfHead said:
Unless they get to 81, it's moot. The parties who want to avoid the stink of coalescing with SF will likely want to avoid it when SF have a larger parliamentary party.
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That's it really. If SF gain in another election it's more than likely going to be at a cost of other smaller left leaning parties. It's unlikely Labour or the Greens would go in with a much stronger SF so they would need to get to 70 odd which seems a long way off yet, thankfully (or at least hopefully!).
I think when they get a chance to reflect SF will see this as their best bet at getting into government.
It's really FF who will decide whether there will be another election or not I think.
 
Purple said:
I think there will be another election within 6 months and the Shinners will get over 50 seats. Hopefully they won't burn down the Reichstag after that.
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One of the few meaningful moments of the RTE coverage was a speculation of how many extra seats the 'Ra would have got if they had maxed their candidates. They came up with an extra 4.
25 winning on first count sort of flattered them and we didn't quite get to see their transfer unfriendly attribute. Though we do get a hint in that 2 of the 5 that did not get elected actually came 2nd in the first count.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
One of the few meaningful moments of the RTE coverage was a speculation of how many extra seats the 'Ra would have got if they had maxed their candidates. They came up with an extra 4. 25 winning on first count sort of flattered them and we didn't quite get to see their transfer unfriendly attribute. Though we do get a hint in that 2 of the 5 that did not get elected actually came 2nd in the first count.
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That is interesting on transfers. Hadn't realised that.
 
First they came for the X5 and Land Rover drivers and I said nothing because I don't have an X5 or Land Rover
Then they came for the Leinster Rugby season ticket holders and I said nothing because I'm not a Leinster Rugby season ticket holder
Then they came for the Landlords and I said nothing because I'm not a Landlord
Then they came for the Bankers and I said nothing because I'm not a Banker
Then they came for the people who sound like West Brit's and I said nothing because I don't sound like a West Brit
Then they came for the smart arses and there's nobody left to speak for me....
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
One of the few meaningful moments of the RTE coverage was a speculation of how many extra seats the 'Ra would have got if they had maxed their candidates. They came up with an extra 4. 25 winning on first count sort of flattered them and we didn't quite get to see their transfer unfriendly attribute. Though we do get a hint in that 2 of the 5 that did not get elected actually came 2nd in the first count.
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Could be wrong on this, but I suspect the extra seats would come at the expense of their left wing potential coalition partners rather than FF \ FG \ Labour or even Greens.
 
Firefly said:
I agree with you, but it is clear to me that most people voted for a change of the guard. SF won this election on votes and had they had more candidates may have gotten a lot closer to an overall majority, IMO.

I therefore think a lot of people would be outraged should FF & FG form a coalition in order to prevent SF from entering government.
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Fly we all wanted a change from that zombie confidence and supply nonsense. But we should not accept the 'Ra mantra that this was a call from the people for "radical" change. I looked through the 1st prefs again and I struggle to come up with 30% wanting radical change.
Unless of course you call a FF/FG coalition a radical change.
 
Yeah it wasnt a call for change. It was a pissed off vote. Cant really blame people either. Just wish it went to useless but well meaning like labour than scumbags like SF.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
Fly we all wanted a change from that zombie confidence and supply nonsense. But we should not accept the 'Ra mantra that this was a call from the people for "radical" change. I looked through the 1st prefs again and I struggle to come up with 30% wanting radical change.
Unless of course you call a FF/FG coalition a radical change.
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I think SF in government would be the greatest "cut off your nose to spite your face" result in the history of the State.
 
Purple said:
First they came for the X5 and Land Rover drivers and I said nothing because I don't have an X5 or Land Rover
Then they came for the Leinster Rugby season ticket holders and I said nothing because I'm not a Leinster Rugby season ticket holder
Then they came for the Landlords and I said nothing because I'm not a Landlord
Then they came for the Bankers and I said nothing because I'm not a Banker
Then they came for the people who sound like West Brit's and I said nothing because I don't sound like a West Brit
Then they came for the smart arses and there's nobody left to speak for me....
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Don't worry Purple, I wouldn't buy a season ticket for Leinster either ;)
 
michaelm said:
If FF and FG believe that a rabble Left government will destroy the country in kissing time then they must step up.
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I think this is one of the most irrational themes among voters from listening to all the commentary, they are adamant that they wanted FF and FG out and that is why they voted SF. Before the election both FF and FG were adamant that they would not be going into government with SF and they are sticking to this line. Yet the very voters that voted for change and SF are incandescent with rage with FF and FG for not going into coalition, its as if they secretly want them in power so that they can continue to be the whipping boys and also because some of them are actually also fearful of SF in power.

Its like a child that wants to stay playing at the playground , the parents threaten that child that they are leaving and will leave him there, "ok i dont care im staying here", then as soon as the parents disappear around the corner the child realises he is alone and panics and starts screaming for his parents.
 
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