Should we pay more tax to have a better society?

Anyway, lest we forget , about who is paying what and how much , its 10 MNC's companies who paid 50% (or more) of the 24Billion (25% of total Budget 2023)

A 50m swimming pool for the great unwashed people of Cork would be a nice start, a large pile of those MNC's are in Munster.
 
I am sure you can back your claims about those thousands of skilled folks on the dole up with some credible links.
 
No seat up for grabs, basically clubs have gotten much better at playing the grant game. Yes, there was letters attached from the local council in the one I was involved in, and from a local TD but that was it, nothing exceptional and nothing that would have influenced it to any great degree
 
It's not simply about pulling power, it requires clubs to get off their backsides, fundraise themselves, get support from their governing body and apply, properly, for one of the many grants that are out there. Most of the grants from central govt funding in my area in the big towns don't go to the GAA, the other sports have just gotten much better. 5 GAA clubs in the town and I can't recall the last time 4 of them ever got a govt grant, 7 soccer clubs, hockey club, athletics club and tennis club have all gotten grants in the last couple of years.
 
Forumuser said:
I am sure you can back your claims about those thousands of skilled folks on the dole up with some credible links.
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The last labour force survey figure I saw was around 35,000 but that was a year or so ago.
 
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There are 35,000+ construction workers on the Live Register, in the middle of a housing crisis.
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I can't find the link for that. I think it was from a 2022 Labour Force Survey but Google isn't helping me.
 
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There are 35,000+ construction workers on the Live Register, in the middle of a housing crisis.
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Do you have a link to some facts and figures?
Construction workers are one thing- tradespeople another. Around here there is always a shortage of qualified people. Without them labourers have no jobs.
 

Live Register July 2024 - Central Statistics Office

www.cso.ie

table LRM13


Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesAll broad occupational groupsNumber185,968
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesManagers and administratorsNumber6,977
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesProfessionalNumber11,375
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesAssociate professional and technicalNumber3,532
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesClerical and secretarialNumber17,411
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesCraft and relatedNumber17,734
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesPersonal and protective servicesNumber15,191
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesSalesNumber10,426
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesPlant and machine operativesNumber17,355
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesOther broad occupational groupsNumber17,375
Persons on the Live Register2024 JulyBoth sexesAll agesNo occupationNumber68,592


Craft and related = 17,734
Plant and machine operatives = 17,355
 
Forumuser said:
Do you have a link to some facts and figures?
Construction workers are one thing- tradespeople another. Around here there is always a shortage of qualified people. Without them labourers have no jobs.
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There are very few trades that require you to actually have a qualification to work in that area. Anyone can work as a carpenter. Anyone can work as a Plasterer. You need to be an electrician to do final fix and sign off on work. You need to be a qualified gas fitter to work on a gas boiler.

My trade, Toolmaking, doesn't require that you actually be qualified as a toolmaker to work on a press tool or an injection mould. You just have to be able to do the job. Skills and qualifications are not the same thing. Qualification and education are not the same thing.
 
That could include engineer trades rather than construction trades.
 
It was aimed at you.

I can understand your frustration - especially as a few posts ago you intimated you were earning approx 2+ million per year and paying over 1 million in tax. That's enough tax to pay the salary of the CEO of the HSE + the salary of a hospital consultant + two teachers + the Dail's new bike shed - it must be exhausting.
 
No, not that much, though I do may six figures in taxes, and what I earn and what I get paid may not be the same thing
 
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No one can make reforms in the absence of comprehensive and reliable data.

A forum, such as this, cannot possibly achieve that level of depth and dependability.

I find Dáil Committees to be very illuminating though sometimes frustrating.

But at least, one can discover some level of detail through their discussions and questionings.

In some cases, those before the committee are well prepared and provide necessary information; in others, there is evasion and equivocation.

In some sessions I have seen, the same questions have been asked and have gone unanswered for years.

With regard to the HSE, one of the biggest spenders, perhaps the responsibilities are too broad, too diverse with too many priority clashes.
 

I’m not against clubs receiving funding but I think we rely too heavily on it the local government providing facilities that can be used by the general public and clubs.

This obviously works better for some facilities vs others. Clubs are great if the sport is a primary interest to you but i like to play tennis a few times in the summer. I couldn’t find any public courts and I wasn’t looking to join a club and pay a year’s membership. However I bet most of the tennis clubs in my area have received government.

In a few other countries I have found public courts that are free or pay as you go which is fine.
 
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With regard to the HSE, one of the biggest spenders, perhaps the responsibilities are too broad, too diverse with too many priority clashes.
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Possibly but the Texas Medical Centre in Houston is the same size as the HSE and had to deal with all of the massive inefficacies baked into the US medial industry. They have over 10 million patient consultations a year, deliver 26,000 babies and perform over 180,000 surgeries. Their total annual budget is around $25 billion, they employ around 120,000 people, have 750,000 ER visits a year and consist of 54 medical related institutions.
I know the HSE is a different sort of institution but it's an interesting structure to look at.
 
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