If it went to a national vote it would be probably allowed going by the number of pro gay adoption on AAM, so my opinion is hardly a threat.
I don't think the other side have done so well at all they have not proved a single thing to me.
Keep on yacking on about equal rights and all that and how gays are discriminated against with regard to gay adoption.
I very much doubt that people would be in favour of such a move.
The general feeling is that there are loads of straight couples who are childless and have in my view much more to offer a child.
MrMan - I have to disagree with this more vehemently than any other point youve made on this thread - I think youre dead wrong. If it went to a national vote I reckon that itd never happen. Not in religious conservative Ireland.
Maybe we should wait until something is conclusive before we make a decision that involves childrens welfare.As for gay men not being shown enough love by their fathers in childhood - if you can show me a scientific paper to back that up Id be well impressed.
There are a number of different theories on the subject, none conclusive.
What has been interesting about this thread (for me) is how some people are perfectly happy to deny rights to certain sections of society - because they are 'different'. It would seem that history has taught us very little.
There is never going to be a 'proof' on matters of opinion.
Interesting how opinions that differ to your own are referred to as 'yacking on'. Narrow minded?
So we DO agree on something!!!
As for gay men not being shown enough love by their fathers in childhood - if you can show me a scientific paper to back that up Id be well impressed.
There are a number of different theories on the subject, none conclusive.
What has been interesting about this thread (for me) is how some people are perfectly happy to deny rights to certain sections of society - because they are 'different'. It would seem that history has taught us very little.
No doubt you're right. I was just basing my view on the 'Application for Adoption Order' which seems to be part of our adoption legislation, here.Thats not true. I know of two single parents with adopted children (one international adoption, one special needs Irish child), and neither are relatives or widowed.
I think not. AAM is hardly representative of wider Irish society; AAM's membership is proportionally more liberal and enlightenedIf it went to a national vote it would be probably allowed going by the number of pro gay adoption on AAM, so my opinion is hardly a threat.
I don't deny them the right to have children naturally.
AAM's membership is proportionally more liberal and enlightened than the general public.
I changed from free-thinking to progressive then to enlightened . . I didn't quite mean it though, finessed now.Liberal certainly but why enlightened?
I changed from free-thinking to progressive then to enlightened . . I didn't quite mean it though, finessed now.
Yeah there is a huge bunch of people who live half and half they have kids, go to work, and all that but when they get near a computer they walk around with flowers in their hair singing "Somewhere over the rainbow".
Ok, you're old fashioned. And "forced down your neck"? What, by being never mentioned anywhere? You clicked on the thread, you're hardly being forced into anything.
And try as you like, liberal is not an insult.
Have you overstayed at the ashram in Poona?I changed from free-thinking to progressive then to enlightened . . I didn't quite mean it though, finessed now.
That reminds me of the time that FF decriminalised homosexuality and Jonny Fox from Wicklow (the TD, not the pub) was getting very irate in the Dail during the debate . A FF TD, I think it was McCreevy, said, “Will you relax; we’re making it legal, not compulsory.”
Nice words Mick. I agree with that.
You agree that having parents limited to man & woman is the reason for kids being put up for afoption?
Nice sentiments Mick but there are far more reasons that lead to adoption.
If what we have now is ideal there would be very few children needing to be adopted.
Jeeze, are we still debating this? Somebody quickly- start a debate on euthanasia or something.
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