Not wishing to drag the post off topic, but it isn't. In general, it is in fact true. Male and female brains are different.
I believe, as other posters have said, that if a gay couple wanted to adopt that they would be more than likely more committed and dedicated parents than the average straight couple
Not wishing to drag the post off topic, but it isn't. In general, it is in fact true. Male and female brains are different.
Why? Because they can finally have what they are naturally deprived of? Would they be as committed down the line once they encounter issues etc.
How many gay people here actually believe that gay adoption is necessary and also is wanted by the majority of the gay community?
Your comments are revealing. You seem to think that the gay community are banging down the doors in a rush to adopt. The point of the argument is not that they can 'finally have what they are naturally deprived of'. Sure this is also true of straight couples who cannot bear children naturally.
You need to distinguish between a community seeking the right not to be legally excluded from being even considered as adoptive parents, and those who actually want to be considered as adoptive parents. I suspect close to 100% of the gay community and a high proportion of the straight community are in the former, and I imagine only a very small percentage of the gay community is in the latter. Fighting for equality is not restricted to those who are being affected.
It sure is.In general, it is in fact true. Male and female brains are different.
What would sexuality have to do with the desire to procreate?
Im finding some of the assumptions made here quite funny, about what members of the gay community may or may not want, fundamentally they are human and would have the same humans needs and desires as anyone else.
Any gay friend I have is indistinguishable from any straight friend I have in all matters of lifestyle except they form relationships with the same sex. They still pay mortgages, go to the cinema, watch tv, do the shopping, go to work, walk the dog etc.... Theres no major lifestyle difference other than who they choose for a partner.
I am assuming you are hetero as am I so we cannot really speak for the gay community.
Yes they are human but they have a different inclination sexually to us so it is not a great strecth to imagine they may also have a different inclination to parenting. ( is it not better to err on the side of caution?
Ummm, proof please? From a pop psychology point of view, you might finf plenty to back that up, from a neuroscientific point of view, you're on a sticky wicket with that assertion.
I wouldnt presume I can speak for the hetero community either, but as a human I can empathise with other humans regardless of their sexuality.
Why would that be? My interests in the bedroom have absolutely no bearing on whether or not I want to raise children. In fact, my sexual proclivities dont have any bearing on any other part of my life, except in partner choice. And even in that one area there is always room for compromise.
There seems to be an assumption by those opposed to gay parenting that being gay implies many differences. I dont see it that way. I see a human being, who sleeps, eats, works, relaxes, visits their mammy, drives a car, watches tv, reads and does any one of a number of activities that I myself do - who they sleep with is a very tiny part of what makes the person.
How would you feel if peoples perception of you was defined by your sexual behaviour only? Surely its only a small aspect of what makes you what you are?
RE the joke, it wasn't accurate, and it was reinforcing an inaccurate stereotype. I'm not gay and I teach my children that so called innocent jokes are often far from it. Of course you see it as an innocent joke, not being a gay man you wouldn't see how being confused with a transvestite might be irritating. Being aware of unintentional offensive and old fashioned "jokes" hardly makes you unsuitable to be a parent.
And re sexually different = parenting different, that hardly follows does it? You think all hetero people have the same sexual inclinations? Its not a simple gay/straight divide, there is a massive spectrum of human sexuality. You might as well argue that someon who is into s&m may have different inclinations on parenting. Or cooking, its just as likely, and just as irrelevant.
Its fairly simple to be honest. Lots of hetero people would like to have children. Lots of gay people would like to have children. Plenty of both would have no interest whatsoever, and quite a few of both shouldn't be allowed as they would be terrible at it.
At the end of the day, its safe to say that anyone not interested would not be applying to adopt. Anyone unsuitable would be screened out durin the selection process. To suggest that some may not be interested or may not be very good at it is a good reason to exclude an entire section of society is just bizarre.
It goes back to my argument that we are basically wired in a certain manner. I base this on the assumption that gay people do not choose to be gay but are rather born gay so there is a difference even if a subtle one.
People have perceptions of others for a multitude of reasons, people here base perceptions of me on my profession I don't get hung up on it.
It goes back to my argument that we are basically wired in a certain manner. I base this on the assumption that gay people do not choose to be gay but are rather born gay so there is a difference even if a subtle one.
If we are wired in a certain manner then surely a child is going to be wired in a certain manner also and no amount of straight or gay parenting is going to change that wiring?
SLF argued that children mimic us as a reason for gay people not to raise children. Being wired in a certain manner debunks that line of reasoning.
We have different ways of thinking and since children mimic us, they need the differences we have in order for them to develop.
If we are wired in a certain manner then surely a child is going to be wired in a certain manner also and no amount of straight or gay parenting is going to change that wiring?
SLF argued that children mimic us as a reason for gay people not to raise children. Being wired in a certain manner debunks that line of reasoning.
I obviously cannot articulate my point on this subject as it has been misunderstood time and time again so lets just say that I just don't have a positive feeling about gay adoption and although thats how i feel I'm sure that my point doesn't matter if I am in the minority on the subject.
If it went to a national vote it would be probably allowed going by the number of pro gay adoption on AAM, so my opinion is hardly a threat.
Myself and SLF have not started an anti gay adoption party so our views can differ.
I on the other hand think differently I believe that most gay men are so because their fathers were not able to show them the love they are supposed to.
Gay women I don't know about.
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