Family Car -Suv or others Recommended

I've only driven the Tuscon and Kuga, both are nice but the boot is much better on the Tuscon.

Based on car reviews the Ateca is the best one but if it is in limited supply you won't get a good deal on one.

I don't like the look of the Sportage although I'm sure it is a good car.

The CX-5 is probably the worst seller (no proof here just a hunch!) of the lot and just wouldn't feature on my radar at all. Purely thinking of when it comes to sell it in a few years, might be a great car but if no one is buying them now well its unlikely they will be a popular choice in a few years...

Leo makes a good point re waiting until the end of the sales cycle however depending on the distributor / manufacture some incentive deals are only there at the start so no matter how desperate a dealer is to meet targets at the end of the year there may not be any incentive for them to do so. Anyway you say you would prefer second hand so targets don't really come into it for the dealer.

Based on your original post I would forget about the Mazda and just buy the one with the biggest boot and that you can get a fair price on. If I recall this is going to be a family car with travel systems (i.e. buggy, bassinet, and separate isofx seat base in the car along with car seat) and from my own experience with one child (now two) you can never have a big enough boot!!!

Bets of luck whatever you buy, hard to buy a bad car these days, very easy to buy a good one that doesn't suit your situation though!
 
galway_blow_in said:
buy a petrol , diesel is at the beginning of the end
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True.........the sentiment against Diesel is moving much faster that the Car Trade anticipated. They thought that it would be a issue when new car buyers today would be changing their cars in 5 years time but not so.

It will be interesting how the Gov here will approach it especially after the Co2 debacle in July 2008.
 
galway_blow_in said:
buy a petrol , diesel is at the beginning of the end
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Agreed, only a matter of time before the motor tax situation is changed to tip the balance back in favour of petrol. Our government won't be among the early adopters, but once they do small diesels in particular are likely to become a lot less sought after in the second hand market.
 
Leo said:
Agreed, only a matter of time before the motor tax situation is changed to tip the balance back in favour of petrol. Our government won't be among the early adopters, but once they do small diesels in particular are likely to become a lot less sought after in the second hand market.
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Whilst I hope you are correct, on environmental grounds, I think there would be considerable backlash from the public. Perhaps increasing excise on diesel would achieve the same thing but be less "political"
 
Firefly said:
Whilst I hope you are correct, on environmental grounds, I think there would be considerable backlash from the public. Perhaps increasing excise on diesel would achieve the same thing but be less "political"
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Unfortunately the hauliers have been successful so far in limiting increases on diesel. If we really wanted to implement a polluter pays policy, it really is the fuel that should be targeted.

They effectively tipped the balance in favour if diesels and devalued big petrol cars when they brought in the CO2 based system. I'm guessing they will phase it over a number of years to ease any backlash.
 
Leo said:
Unfortunately the hauliers have been successful so far in limiting increases on diesel. If we really wanted to implement a polluter pays policy, it really is the fuel that should be targeted.

They effectively tipped the balance in favour if diesels and devalued big petrol cars when they brought in the CO2 based system. I'm guessing they will phase it over a number of years to ease any backlash.
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the hauliers are fighting to survive , insurance is a killer
 
Had a look at the Seat Ateca, demo model and was impressed. We also looked at a new Kia Sportage. Getting better trade in on a new Sportage but didn't think it was as roomy. Small things are main differences like lip in boot of Ateca and no sat nav in Ateca. Heated seats in Sportage and rear camera but no safety stop. Boot size similar but sportage seems smaller in the back seats

Anyone have opinions on new Kia Sportage?
 
Leo said:
Don't get too caught up with in-car sat-nav. Most of them are crap, especially when it comes to finding Irish addresses, and updates can be expensive.
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I agree. When I rent cars in the UK, Europe and USA I never use the built in Sat-Nav as Google Maps on my phone is much better and easier to use.
 
Sat Nav not a biggie can mirror google maps but need to use Data for this?? Only use Sat Nav for travelling around Ireland or travelling to UK so not a show stopper
 
IrishGunner said:
Sat Nav not a biggie can mirror google maps but need to use Data for this?? Only use Sat Nav for travelling around Ireland or travelling to UK so not a show stopper
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Prepare in advance, when connected to WiFi, open Google Maps and zoom the map out to cover the area you want to drive in giving yourself some lee-way for detours. Then type 'ok maps' in the search box and then search. That will bring up a dialog which will allow you select an area to download to your device.

You can save multiple areas to cover long journeys. I've been able to cover trip across 3 US states using that method. You can then use navigation within your saved areas without the need to enable data. Favourite the main places you're likely to visit before downloading the map data and these will all be visible within your offline data too.
 
IrishGunner said:
Sat Nav not a biggie can mirror google maps but need to use Data for this??
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Last summer I purchased a 1GB Data package when we went to France as I wanted to use Google Maps. I was surprised to note how little data was used. I thought it would last until we got to our campsite but we used it many times when there and also on the way back and never came near using the 1GB allowance.
 
Yeah not a biggie can use my phone and have downloaded maps via Google maps and others. As family car safety and reliability big and its then the smaller things that would make life easier like interior that is easily cleaned with Junior in the back. Also boot size and both the Ateca and Kia have good boot size. Big investment so at the prices I may live in the car:)
 
If you are away for more than a week and think you will use a lot of data I recommend that you buy a ready to go phone locally which has some sort of "All you can eat" data allowance. You then tether your own phone to it. That way you can turn off data roaming on your Irish phone and effectively use the local phone as a wifi hub.
I used to do that when in the UK back when roaming charges were high. A local 3 phone cost £70 and with a £20 top up I got unlimited data.
 
Decided to go for the Seat Ateca. To be fair most SUV have same specs and we tried Kia Sportage(good but just felt to plastic, Peugeot 3008(stylish but not to pushed on interior) and Renault Kadjar(did not like the panoramic roof)

I drive a Golf so Ateca felt the same and got decent deal on extras. Did not go the PCP route as felt cash is king and I own it but each to their own.
 
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IrishGunner said:
Decided to go for the Seat Ateca. To be fair most SUV have same specs and we tried Kia Sportage(good but just felt to plastic, Peugeot 3008(stylish but not to pushed on interior) and Renault Kadjar(did not like the panoramic roof)

I drive a Golf so Ateca felt the same and got decent deal on extras. Did not go the PCP route as felt cash is king and I own it but each to their own.
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Good stuff and enjoy!!
 
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