Family Car -Suv or others Recommended

[IrishGunner]

The replacement for my beloved Yeti, the car that set the standard for small SUVs. The overview of the Karoq in the current edition of AutoExpress doesn't say a whole lot yet, "platforms / architectures / stablemates" blah blah blah.

Really interested in this but I'd be buying new while Seat Ateca I could buy second hand so in 2 minds

 

[Purple]

I think they look great! Also, I think the estate looks as good too - not many estates can claim that (A4 / V60 / V70 maybe).

Each to their own I suppose. I'm not a fan of boxy cars. That's part of the reason I dislike Range Rovers so much; big ugly boxes.

 

[galway_blow_in]

I agree on your first points, though I'd go for a Mazda 6 over an Accord any day of the week.
I'd probably go for a Mondeo ahead of the Accord as well.

mazda 6 is identical to a ford mondeo only holds its value even worse , its really not at the races compared to a honda accord though

 

[galway_blow_in]

Also, I think the best car in that class is the new Skoda Superb. It has it all really..

your joking ?

 

[Purple]

mazda 6 is identical to a ford mondeo only holds its value even worse , its really not at the races compared to a honda accord though

Again, each to their own. Having driven all three, though mostly the Mondeo, followed by the 6, with only a couple of trips in an accord, I would go for the 6 for looks and drive (similar feel but better engine), the Mondoe for space and practicality and the accord for built quality. It also has a nice engine but on par with the Mazda and if you are looking for interior finish and build quality the Passat is a better option than the Accord though, like all non "sports" spec VW's it's boring to drive.
There's a reason Honda stopped making the Accord. Interestingly this segment is dominated by the Nissan Camry in the USA and I don't think Nissan even sell them here anymore.

 

[Purple]

your joking ?

He's from Cork.

 

[Firefly]

your joking ?

Hi galway_blow_in,

If you check out the reviews out there you'll find that they are almost universally very good...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/superb
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/skoda/skoda-superb-review/
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/skoda/superb
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...-superb-builds-on-a-winning-formula-1.2316134
http://www.evo.co.uk/skoda/superb

Not sure if it's best in class, but it's certainly up there.

He's from Cork.

Some of us just happen to be blessed

 

[galway_blow_in]

Hi galway_blow_in,

If you check out the reviews out there you'll find that they are almost universally very good...

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/skoda/superb
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/skoda/skoda-superb-review/
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/skoda/superb
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...-superb-builds-on-a-winning-formula-1.2316134
http://www.evo.co.uk/skoda/superb

Not sure if it's best in class, but it's certainly up there.



Some of us just happen to be blessed

those motoring journalists tend to parrot each other , if fiat brought out a fantastic car , it would still get a poor review , vw could bring out something akin to a lada and 5 stars

 

[monagt]

To quote Jeremy Clarkson who thinks " the Skoda Superb estate is a five-star car. It’s nigh-on impossible to fault. It is beautifully made. It is equipped with everything you could reasonably expect. The 148 brake horsepower diesel engine is quiet and powerful. It is extremely good value for money. It’s really rather good-looking. It is spacious and — try not to laugh — it does nearly 70mpg. Oh, go on then. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

And yet it just isn’t a five-star car, is it, because it has the same amount of soul as a fridge freezer. It’s the sort of car that you’d buy by the foot.

“Hello. I’d like five-and-a-bit yards of car, please.”

“Certainly, Geoff. Let me show you the Superb.”

 

[Firefly]

those motoring journalists tend to parrot each other , if fiat brought out a fantastic car , it would still get a poor review , vw could bring out something akin to a lada and 5 stars

I think the Superb is best in class. You asked if I was joking. I've provided links to recognised motoring websites and even monagt quotes the notourisly difficult to please Jeremy Clarkson gushing about the car. Given your point above, can you offer anything to suggest that it is a joke to consider the Superb best in class?

 

[Ceist Beag]

Firefly I wouldn't worry about it. Cars are ultimately down to personal preference and some people look for certain things in a car that are not all that important to others. For example Purple says that he doesn't think the Volvo S60 is a nice drive and much prefers the drive from a Mondeo whilst I find the S60 to be a lovely drive and definitely a step up in comfort, class and looks from the Mondeo. That said I would say that both are great cars, just that we have a difference in preference. FWIW I think the Skoda represents superb value (pun fully intended! ) and is a great car. I think most cars in this bracket are really good cars. The funny thing is though, despite the overwhelming number of posts in here advising the OP to buy saloon or hatchback over SUV, it looks like he's going with his original preference of SUV so again personal preference wins out over any argument on pros/cons of alternatives!

 

[Firefly]

Firefly I wouldn't worry about it. Cars are ultimately down to personal preference and some people look for certain things in a car that are not all that important to others. For example Purple says that he doesn't think the Volvo S60 is a nice drive and much prefers the drive from a Mondeo whilst I find the S60 to be a lovely drive and definitely a step up in comfort, class and looks from the Mondeo. That said I would say that both are great cars, just that we have a difference in preference. FWIW I think the Skoda represents superb value (pun fully intended! ) and is a great car. I think most cars in this bracket are really good cars. The funny thing is though, despite the overwhelming number of posts in here advising the OP to buy saloon or hatchback over SUV, it looks like he's going with his original preference of SUV so again personal preference wins out over any argument on pros/cons of alternatives!

Thanks, yeah I'm all for personal taste too. I think the Superb is a great car and ticks the boxes but would be first to admit it wouldn't set my heart racing. However asking me if I was joking was a bit uncalled for I think when clearly it is a very good car.

I like the S60 however I think with Volvo (and BMW (which I drive myself) , Audi, Mercedes) you are sacrificing space for a badge.

 

[monagt]

I think the Superb is best in class. You asked if I was joking. I've provided links to recognised motoring websites and even monagt quotes the notourisly difficult to please Jeremy Clarkson gushing about the car. Given your point above, can you offer anything to suggest that it is a joke to consider the Superb best in class?

You forgot Parkers.co.uk, HonestJohn.co.uk, and many more.
Superb tends to rate highly consistently.

 

[Ceist Beag]

I like the S60 however I think with Volvo (and BMW (which I drive myself) , Audi, Mercedes) you are sacrificing space for a badge.

Not sure I would agree it's for the badge Firefly. Definitely there is a sacrifice on space when compared to Superb or Mondeo but for me it's at the expense of a superior finish, comfort and safety, not the badge (as I have never cared for the badge of a car personally).

 

[Firefly]

Not sure I would agree it's for the badge Firefly. Definitely there is a sacrifice on space when compared to Superb or Mondeo but for me it's at the expense of a superior finish, comfort and safety, not the badge (as I have never cared for the badge of a car personally).

I'd go with that too. My 11 year old BMW was really well put together - not a rattle at any speed. Guzzling oil on me though!

 

[IrishGunner]

Beginning to look more at 2nd hand cars as PCP putting me off. Possible looking at buying up North and looking at the Mazda and the Hyundai also.

Now to find good dealer up North to see if they can find me one.

 

[galway_blow_in]

i kind of like cars which have a little bit of quirkiness going on which is why i dont like skoda , my other half drives a car which sold about ten during the four years they were on the market here , this is it

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/chrysler/delta-2011/

the one she drives was bought a year ago , its 2012 , has 40 k on the clock , 120 bhp turbo diesel , she paid 7700 for it , granted it will probably be unsellable were she to change but we dont change cars too often

 

[LS400]

Not sure if its been mentioned here, but another issue i would consider when buying a car, is, the keyless start. Asking for trouble. Its only my opinion, but i absolutely detest them.

From the other half swapping cars with the key still in the pocket, I know it bleeps when out of range, but as they bleep for every conceivability from handbrake on, seatbelt not fastened, door open, lights on etc, or, while you driving, you start to glance around for the key, checking your pockets thinking, wheres the key, did I leave them on the roof when I strapped the little one in. Then you cut out at junction, press off, then press on again then you forgot to press the clutch, brake etc, all the time, there is a vehicle bearing down towards you, Never again no matter how much I liked the car.

 

[IrishGunner]

Car shopping this weekend looking at the below

Seat Ateca
Ford Kuga
Kia Sportage
Hyundai Tucson
Mazda CX-5

Most of these are available via second hand or Demo modes and there are other SUV from Opel and Renault that are new but I would rather get second hand. Reading all the reviews the Ateca comes out the best and its relatively new but would like users opinions on the others if they own one or have experience. Aiming to have made a decision soon as I would say dealers would be looking to give deals in second half of the year, correct? So July could be good month to get these ? Planning on keeping it a good while so thus thinking re sale value of Seat might be better as newer model? Also need to take into account costs but won’t be spending anything more than 30k and that’s pushing it. Also looking at going up North to see a few so that’s another option

All opinions welcome

 

[Leo]

So July could be good month to get these ?

Just in terms of timing, that's the start of the 172 and the start of a quarter, so likely a busy period. It's often said you stand a better chance of getting a deal toward the end of a quarter when the dealer is trying to make up numbers to hit targets.