I had a meetup with EV drivers a few years back as kind of an industry thing. I was staggered to find many if not most of them were doing massive pan European journeys and commutes in their EVs. In their eyes the massive savings in fuel and servicing were worth any hassle. I think people on the bleeding edge are likely to be people open to trying new things and not concerned about it now working out. It was just part of trying something new.
EV Vs ICE Issues: Range
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I had a meetup with EV drivers a few years back as kind of an industry thing. I was staggered to find many if not most of them were doing massive pan European journeys and commutes in their EVs. In their eyes the massive savings in fuel and servicing were worth any hassle. I think people on the bleeding edge are likely to be people open to trying new things and not concerned about it now working out. It was just part of trying something new.
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in response to me explaining that the ID3 is passat sized on the interior, and it is. and has the same cargo space as well if you arent carrying rear passengers for the odd occasion when you need to lug a chest of drawers.
I mean meets 98% of minimum requirements 100% of the time.You probably mean meets or exceeds minimum requirements 98% of the time though, right?
Or a bike, or an EBike.
I'm a single parent so I need a car that will do 100% of what I need.
But it's no use for a family going on a holiday in Ireland... unless you buy a roof box.
And run my hair?
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why not? depends on how many people are travelling, the boot isnt tiny, do people with golfs not take holidays? also my car has a 660L boot and i could still do with a roofbox, is my car no use for a holiday in ireland?
Well that rules out probably 50% of EVs and a similar number of ICE models as well.
Not if they have kids like mine. Teenaged girls NEED a massive amount of stuff for a week in Wexford.
That's around twice the size of the ID3's boot.
As I said, I like EV's and I'm glad that we are moving that way. They just aren't there for me yet. That and I don't use my car that much any more (I cycle to work) so I'm probably best off, from an environmental perspective, holding onto what I have.
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Friends of ours were just about to buy a new bigger EV (due to kids growing larger) and only when they asked would their current roof box fit did they find out the new EV wouldn't support it - as in terms of weight, the roof was so thin. They're EV converts but needed more space so ended up keeping their current EV and buying a second-hand Diesel SUV.
I think some of the comments on here are kind of hilarious - a car must do this in order to be a car, it's sad really. Most peoples journeys are perfect for EV use, some posters here seem to almost feel their masculinity is in question if they're "forced" to use an EV.
By the time ICE are off the road - mid 2030s - battery range and number of charging points will have massively improved. No-one is forcing anyone to buy an EV now.
There is time to sit back with popcorn and see how EV landscape develops over the next decade.
While I usually hold cars for a long time. When I replaced one car last year, I decided to pick up something that would do short term and didn't worry about the long term. Hence I didn't want to spend to much on it.
While I usually hold cars for a long time. When I replaced one car last year, I decided to pick up something that would do short term and didn't worry about the long term. Hence I didn't want to spend to much on it.
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Not necessarily.
You might well be better off with a 'standard' EV for most of your mileage, and renting something different when you need that extra space. If you transport a fridge once a year, it doesn't make sense to buy a vehicle that can comfortably transport a fridge, and have it transporting one person and a sports bag for most of the year. If you need to transport six people for one or two weekends a year, it makes little sense to buy a seven seater and travel round with six empty seats for most of the year. Car sharing and car renting can supplement car ownership.
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While you (and I, as it happens) are sitting back with our popcorn, our planet is burning up. We don't have a whole lot of time to hang around on these decisions. It's not just about you or me.
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I remember meeting a guy with a 1st generation Leaf, 120km range. Chargers were still free to use at the time and few other EVs on the road, so never a queue.
He was excited that he could drive Dublin to Galway for FREE. Stopping multiple times to charge didn't bother him, increased journey times didn't bother him. It was all free. He saw himself as a pioneer and said he would still be driving the same car in ten years.
Would love to know if he still is.
Our mileage is very low. We are saving the planet by keeping old car going longer and not consuming the resources needed to get new cars.
I see Kryten got his Leaf upgraded.
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Not sure who that is aimed at but I don't see where you are getting that idea. All I see are people saying that an EV is not for them right now and then outline the reasons why.
For me personally, I certainly will consider an EV when shopping next (my point about stress and charging was slightly tongue in cheek but that seems to have been missed by at least one poster!). However for me this will be mainly for journeys where the whole family is not travelling (due to lack of boot space mainly, not so much range concerns although that would still be a factor as things stand right now) and also where storage is not a requirement (I coach a kids team and regularly fill the boot with gear so again storage is a concern). My decision will obviously also include the cost of EV vs ICE (both purchase price and running costs over a number of years) to evaluate if the extra purchase cost is sufficiently offset by the lower running costs.
I fully intend to keep the family car (diesel) for when needed but as AlbacoreA suggested, it could well be that this becomes the second car as the EV can be used primarily for most daily runs.
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