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Even the shortest time spent googling will show multiple options, in ireland, where you can get your leaf battery replaced with a superior battery pack for 6-7.5k.
Even the shortest time spent googling will show multiple options, in ireland, where you can get your leaf battery replaced with a superior battery pack for 6-7.5k.The LEAF is at the extreme end of the cost but Leo's link shows people being charged €30,000 for a replacement.
As far as I'm aware it is not possible to replace a battery with a higher spec one, although improved manufacturing processes can improve battery life. A 2017 Leaf will cost you around €15k. Would you buy that car knowing that in 5 years the battery could cost you more than you paid for it?
Links?Even the shortest time spent googling will show multiple options, in ireland, where you can get your leaf battery replaced with a superior battery pack for 6-7.5k.
It's a pretty competitive market right now, and with talk of government supports on purchasing having to reduced in the coming years, the manufacturers will be forced to drop prices to stimulate sales.
VW are also stating the new battery designs will be 50% cheaper to produce from the start.
That's been discussed already in this thread. VW say it'll be 2024 and cost less than the current technology.There was an article a few months back in the FT (paywall) but search Lex in depth: a solid case for the next generation of batteries. It was a very interesting article outlining limitations of current batterieis and potential next generation technology.
Batteries are not worthless as most work perfectly well until long after they are out of warranty.The battery life will be the big issue. At the moment the car is effectively worthless once the battery is out of warranty.
Given that the carbon footprint during production is significantly higher than IC cars their green credentials only come to the fore at they get into high total mileage.
There's a likelihood that I could drop dead if I get out of bed tomorrow. What is the actual likelihood of battery failure? They have proven far more reliable than originally thought.Links?
Would you spend €15k on a car where there was a likelihood that you'd have to spend half the value of the car in 3 years replacing the battery?
as i said before a leaf holds no interest for me, but again ill ask where are you getting these battery failure rates from?Links?
Would you spend €15k on a car where there was a likelihood that you'd have to spend half the value of the car in 3 years replacing the battery?
We are still at an early stage of this technology. I'm waiting for at least 5 years before I buy an EV.I have seen a lot of the VW ID3/4 around blackrock since christmas. They are lovely!
What about charging infrastructure? Anecdotally I was in Wexford over the summer and petrol station had 2 chargers, as I sat eating a sandwich the chargers were both in use, but more importantly I saw more coming in an attempting to use.
So when making a circular trip the range is fine because you know you can charge at home, but if going on vacation in Ireland etc they can become inconvenient without the proper charging infrastructure.
The charging is improving but has always suffered from having good dispersion but poor density, so yes you come across cases where there is only one charger but a couple of people looking to use it. It's rare, but it happens. If you need to do lots of long journeys, just don't buy an EV yet. If you need to do one a month or something you'll be totally fine.I have seen a lot of the VW ID3/4 around blackrock since christmas. They are lovely!
What about charging infrastructure? Anecdotally I was in Wexford over the summer and petrol station had 2 chargers, as I sat eating a sandwich the chargers were both in use, but more importantly I saw more coming in an attempting to use.
So when making a circular trip the range is fine because you know you can charge at home, but if going on vacation in Ireland etc they can become inconvenient without the proper charging infrastructure.
We are still at an early stage of this technology. I'm waiting for at least 5 years before I buy an EV.
I do low mileage so the most environmentally friendly thing I can do it hold onto the car I have.
Given that the carbon footprint during production is significantly higher than IC cars their green credentials only come to the fore at they get into high total mileage. Most of that carbon footprint comes from the manufacture of the battery so these new ones may be a game changer in that respect as well.
the vast majority of EV users charge at home, if you cannot install a home charger i wouldnt recommend one tbh.I have seen a lot of the VW ID3/4 around blackrock since christmas. They are lovely!
What about charging infrastructure? Anecdotally I was in Wexford over the summer and petrol station had 2 chargers, as I sat eating a sandwich the chargers were both in use, but more importantly I saw more coming in an attempting to use.
So when making a circular trip the range is fine because you know you can charge at home, but if going on vacation in Ireland etc they can become inconvenient without the proper charging infrastructure.
It sounds like that's the right decision for you.We are still at an early stage of this technology. I'm waiting for at least 5 years before I buy an EV.
I do low mileage so the most environmentally friendly thing I can do it hold onto the car I have.
The one thing I don't like is that EV's are just not as engaging to drive as IC cars. Maybe it's the weight or the lack of noise or the lack of a gearbox but I just don't like driving them.It sounds like that's the right decision for you.
For others considering it, EVs are a superior drive in virtually every way compared to their petrol/diesel equivalents, including slower depreciation. The only way you'd regret the decision is if you pay too much for the car (same risk buying a Porsche or any expensive (to you) petrol/diesel), you cannot charge at home or you need to do regular long journeys. Replacing batteries is not something you need to worry about in moderate climates like ours, it's just not a factor.
what car are you driving that is exciting you?The one thing I don't like is that EV's are just not as engaging to drive as IC cars. Maybe it's the weight or the lack of noise or the lack of a gearbox but I just don't like driving them.
For acceleration they are fantastic but they seem a bit sterile or something. They don't excite me.
I've driven lots of cars.what car are you driving that is exciting you?
im asking as a current EV driver who has owned a few BMW M3s and other 'sports' cars in the past.
No doubt but that's not what I asked.I've driven lots of cars.
what car are you driving that is exciting you?
im asking as a current EV driver who has owned a few BMW M3s and other 'sports' cars in the past.
I currently drive a BMW 520.No doubt but that's not what I asked.
so you currently drive a 520 bmw (im assuming its a 4 pot diesel you have), thats all i asked, i have driven a few, nice cars, my dad has one, but if thats what you are driving denouncing ev's as not as engaging or sterile isnt credible imo.I currently drive a BMW 520.
The fastest car I ever drove was a DB9.
The most fun car I ever drove was a MX5.
My first car was a Honda Civic (I didn't deliver pizza or drugs, it was before that was a thing).
My favourite colour is green.
I've no idea what my star sign is.
I like romantic walks in the woods.
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