I'll ask the question again,
If I have them on my blocklist, they had no legitimate reason to call me. What are the chances they have any legitimate reason to call another AAM poster? Give me a precise percentage based on your knowledge.
Develop AAM Blocked Numbers Blacklist?
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You can be 99.99% confident that scammers aren't paying to obtain a legitimate Irish phone number that might make them traceable when they can just use number spoofing tools from abroad making tracing and enforcement difficult to impossible.
That's true only if they have genuine owners and are not from a random telephone number generator. Are genuine numbers used by scammers more often than random numbers? How do the percentages stack up based on your knowledge and experience?
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Hi mathepac
It's an interesting idea but it's not something we would get involved with in any way on askaboutmoney.
But there is nothing to stop you opening a website or What's App and publishing, in your own name, phone numbers which have been used to call you.
then if there are legitimate phone numbers on that list, you can deal with any issues arising.
Brendan
It's an interesting idea but it's not something we would get involved with in any way on askaboutmoney.
But there is nothing to stop you opening a website or What's App and publishing, in your own name, phone numbers which have been used to call you.
then if there are legitimate phone numbers on that list, you can deal with any issues arising.
Brendan
As a non-criminal, they may at some future time have a legitimate reason to call you. Where is the logic in blocking a phone number that was spoofed once to call you? The numbers aren't reused.
I know. I was simply pointing out what they've been doing/not doing on this front as it's relevant in the context of this thread.
Perhaps there's a psychological benefit akin to that gained from pressing the lift door close button or the pedestrian crossing button? In most cases these buttons are not wired to anything, but people feel better for having pressed them.
AAM isn't starting a deny list, please read my proposal again carefully.
My proposal is to combine deny lists that already exist in private individuals' phone for redistribution to other private individuals who want to participate in protecting their phones from known scammers/spoofers. Those who wish to participate, as per the proposal, need only share their list by PM with me as the "combiner".
The phone manufacturers already provide the facility in their handsets to block specific numbers. I take it from some of the more hysterical posts that the next logical step would be to accuse the phone manufacturers of widespread "denial of service" operations.
As for your blacklist/whitelist observation, Merriam-Webster doesn't recognise that as a fact and they're American! Blacklist definition
OK, I'll be more clear, AAM isn't going to start facilitating anything like this that could only serve to harm its reputation.
True. I was giving you too much credit.
And you know that how? If numbers were not reused, why would the handset manufacturers go to the trouble of providing the facility to block them? The reality is probably that numbers are shared/sold amongst scammers, like the lists of names and addresses of vulnerable scam victims on a recent BBC Rip Off Britain broadcast.
I don't think we are disagreeing. Having been a long time observer of ComReg, and it's predecessor the ODTR (Office of the Director of Telecommunications Regulation) I was just pointing out that I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting on action given the glacial pace at which they operate. This is a classic case of analysis paralysis. If the regulator had its finger on the pulse it should have moved quickly. And then, if anything got broken or further threats emerged, deal with these by way of amending the regulations. Sitting on their hands for 3 or more years and chatting to the world and its wife in the name of consultation while the scams go on and on and on is ridiculous.
Just on that point, I'd be grateful to know that my number was in use by scammers; it'd prompt me to change it.
Very disappointed at the more illogical, hysterical reactions, and the random generalisations posted as givens, but thanks for giving my proposal airtime.
If I put an AAM poster on my AAM ignore list, does that deny that poster access to any AAM services? Does the poster know they're on my ignore list?
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What are the chances of that happening, based on your knowledge and experience?
Have you ever interacted with the HSE? If so, your number has most likely been used by scammers, you should change it.
Just hang up the call and move on with your life. You clearly don't appreciate the prevalence of phone number spoofing and the absurdity of curating lists on a web forum with phone numbers for people to block. You are the only person in this entire thread that thinks this a worthwhile endevour - there is a reason for that.
Have a look in your call history. Find a number from a scam call. Note how many times that number has called your phone.
By looking at my call log
To stop those 4am calls from one's ex
What value would there be in that, that couldn't be achieved with the Excel function RANDBETWEEN and the Wikipedia article 'Telephone numbers in Ireland '?
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