This option isn’t equitable. People have different increment dates so if they decide to implement this from 1st January what about people who received an increment on the 31st December – they will not suffer any loss. Then there are staff who are on their max for 10+ years.
Sandrat is talking about reversing increments, not freezing them.
I know, I was addressing galwaygirl.
So was I. I think our posts crossed.
Yes, but you could have higher paid Clerical Staff suffering more than lower paid Executive Staff. It just is not a fair solution.
No-one seemed to think it inequitable when people got increments of differing sizes.
I'm not saying that but maybe the people I know are not the people who vote for this kind of ill advised industrial action when the public are already made to hate us enough with the private vs public sector debates in the media.
Apparently they were worked out and very finely tuned by Dept of Finance to ensure that you wouldn't have a situation where a more junior grade higher up their scale could be earning more than their Manager who was lower down their scale. The figures weren't just pulled out of a hat.
Well then what is fair ?Yes, but you could have higher paid Clerical Staff suffering more than lower paid Executive Staff. It just is not a fair solution.
Well then what is fair ?
Straight percentage cut isn't fair.
Low paid cut more than high paid isn't fair.
High paid cut more than low paid isn't fair.
Any suggestions as to what IS acceptable (apart from payrises)?
Well, I was talking to a friend of mine who works on salaries and she said that was part of the thinking behind the differences in increment sizes. Maybe what she meant was that the overlap between grades couldn't go beyond a certain amount.
Sorry, I'm replying to Becky's post.
Well then what is fair ?
Straight percentage cut isn't fair.
Low paid cut more than high paid isn't fair.
High paid cut more than low paid isn't fair.
Any suggestions as to what IS acceptable (apart from payrises)?
A 10% cut in the workforce would be better. Should be targeted at areas where there are cuts in programmes thus meaning the people working on them have no work to do. Should also be targeted at those areas who have lost the run of themselves in recent years and need reform.
We could also do with a lot of mergers of local authorities - not ala HSE where you retain the same staff and hire more to manage them. Have so that one local authority takes over the workload of another and maybe gets a small increase in frontline staff and all the staff at the other are made redundant.