Hi Vanilla,
Vanilla said:
And what did you originally intend? A consensus on what bad drivers women are?
Actually no Vanilla. But it's turned that way.
I originally intended to have a rant about the near accident I was in. Which is what I did.
The argument turned to women drivers when you asked me the question about the common denominator I was referring to. My mistake I suppose for half opening the can of worms...
Vanilla said:
I'm not sure what you base this on, I think it might be because an earlier poster said something about male drivers and nobody immediately leapt to their defence.
No no...not at all. If you'd been paying attention to anything I've been saying all day you would have seen that I was referring to multiple instances of double standards throughout this topic.
Fobs for instance has made numerous references to young male drivers tailgating, amongst other offences. There is no verifiable data to back this up is there? Let me ask you...would you agree with this point of view?
Vanilla said:
Once again, Gabriel, I have to point out to you that you are the one accusing others of accusing you of being chauvinistic and sexist and now ignorant.
Well...perhaps. Without knowing it maybe we all have sexist tendencies. Mine are no more overt than anyone elses. We could get into a philosophical debate about that but I don't believe anyone is completely non-sexist in some small way. It's in our genes (in relative quantities).
However, I'm getting off the point. What I'm merely doing is countering the finger pointing. The finger has been duly pointed at me for having a go at women drivers without verifiable evidence to back it up (and the insinuation made that I'm chauvanistic, sexist and/or ignorant). Yet when I point the finger back and add that no one (not once) asked anyone else for evidence of 'young male tailgating' for instance everyone gets all uppity. Just because I started the thread doesn't mean everything has to be directed at me now does it?
To recap what I originally said about women drivers...
Gabriel said:
At the risk of being berated by everyone on this board...the common denominator in over 10 years of driving is women.
Sorry if that offends anyone. That's been my experience. Actually, I tell a lie. Women, taxi drivers and the odd white van driver. They're the only drivers I have come across who make unbelievably wreckless or plain bad decisions whilst driving and never apologise for it.
I realise that what most people like to hear is that there are bad 'drivers' out there (both male and female)...but I'm sorry, my overriding experience is that most of them are female. The errors they make are astounding and they rarely if ever apologise for them or even seem to realise what they've done.
I went on to qualify that this was my experience over ten years and that the majority of these poor driving skills were to be seen in day to day traffic. Rush hour conditions if you will.
To start with you started quoting statistical data on car crashes/deaths to me....completely missing the point.
Every point made is made relative to the context of the conversation. Perhaps I should have spelt that out more plainly. By using the term 'bad drivers' I was not referring to speeding and or car crashes. Statistically men cause more serious car accidents. That's a given.
However, that's not what I was referring to...now was it?
Let's take one point then shall we and be really, really anal about it. Spatial awareness.
Here's an article that recounts certain research proving that men are better at spatial tasks than women.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2405/is_n1_v125/ai_20602762