Who's not paying their fair share?
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No one wants to pay tax it seems,
we were looking for a office cleaner few hours per week minimum wage (€8.65). no one's interested and certainly not unless its cash in hand... we dont want to do cash in hand we believe you should pay your part. so we have no cleaner. I guess they don't want to lose there benefits.
we were looking for a office cleaner few hours per week minimum wage (€8.65). no one's interested and certainly not unless its cash in hand... we dont want to do cash in hand we believe you should pay your part. so we have no cleaner. I guess they don't want to lose there benefits.
T McGibney
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In fairness, this doesn't sound like the candidates 'not wanting to pay tax'. The combination of individual and PAYE tax credits means minimum wage earners generally are tax exempt anyway. Your guess about losing benefit entitlements may well be correct, on the other hand it mightn't be worth someone's while taking on a cleaning job for €20 or €25 per week. When travel and other costs are paid for, the amount left for themselves would be tiny.
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My fair share is €0.
Hear hear. With money being wasted as described here:
along with all the other ways our government throw away the money it takes from hard working people, who can blame us?
So why do so many people want bigger government?
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I think they don't realise that everything has a cost.
That's what Happy Gilmore and Moan Burton will give us after the next election.
The electorate, led by the media, will treat the symptoms of crony capitalism with a dose of socialism. That’s akin to doctors of old treating a fever by bleeding the patient.
This is probably the case, and is why I've got one foot in and one foot out of the country. I'd hate to leave, but there's only so much auld sh*te that a man can take.
€8.65 is not the minimum wage for an office cleaner its €9.50 as per the JLC agreement.
You obviously dont want to play your part to the extent that you would comply with the employment law.
small company.. me... so not up to date... wow €9.50, going to give my job up and become a cleaner.. thanks for the update number 7
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But the point is that the min wage for the lesser jobs are not enticing people to work. The small co cannot pay €12 an hour to make it worthwhile for person to work. The small co is expected to produce their goods for less money cos everyone believes that they are paying too much so we remain in an ever decreasing circle. How can we re-shape it? Our cost of sales are currently increasing, but the customer won't tolerate a price increase and the staff don't want to work for the min wage.......tell me all you folks in the know, how do I close this issue? In the longterm it is best to shut shop, settle bills and add 12 more people to the dole queue! The long term being Jan 2011.
And believe me, from talking to our customers there are many businesses thinking the same way, so that 400,000 on the dole could grow very quickly and quietly in Jan because we don't have the voice of the large corp.
And believe me, from talking to our customers there are many businesses thinking the same way, so that 400,000 on the dole could grow very quickly and quietly in Jan because we don't have the voice of the large corp.
I like these kind of threads largely because the answer is always "every one else but me".
Taking the OP:
You'd also have to include deficit and the cost of borrowing onto that bill. Just for my own curiosity, where did the 10 years come from?
The genuine question though is what is "fair"? Is it fair that someone on minimum wage gets the same bill as someone on 6 figures? Whether it's €22 or €220 a week, as a percentage of wage, it hits the lower earners the hardest. I'll be honest and say I wouldn't think twice about dropping €22 a week, but then I can afford it (to be honest I spent that this week through the Marvel App).
Which comes back to my own definition of fair and my own opinion of who isn't paying their fair share: me. It's all well and good looking around for different scapegoats, but if I want this country back on its feet and I want a fair society and to not face the mess we're in again I have to accept that my years of a good salary and low tax are over.
I can afford to pay more and in a fair society I should be paying more.
Taking the OP:
You'd also have to include deficit and the cost of borrowing onto that bill. Just for my own curiosity, where did the 10 years come from?
The genuine question though is what is "fair"? Is it fair that someone on minimum wage gets the same bill as someone on 6 figures? Whether it's €22 or €220 a week, as a percentage of wage, it hits the lower earners the hardest. I'll be honest and say I wouldn't think twice about dropping €22 a week, but then I can afford it (to be honest I spent that this week through the Marvel App).
Which comes back to my own definition of fair and my own opinion of who isn't paying their fair share: me. It's all well and good looking around for different scapegoats, but if I want this country back on its feet and I want a fair society and to not face the mess we're in again I have to accept that my years of a good salary and low tax are over.
I can afford to pay more and in a fair society I should be paying more.