Not saying it is. Simply point out moaning about the pay cut they had to take, maybe they should stand back and thank their lucky stars that they are not taking a 100% pay cut. Most of the people on the dole lines did not cause this crisis either.
We all have to make choices in life, some good some bad, unfortunately for some it was the wrong one... again how is it the PS fault exactly?
Though one observation I would make is that having a 25 year pay scale with the top workers earning nearly twice the bottom workers is unfair. By its nature, someone should become proficient in this type of job quite quickly - doesnt require 25 years, so doesnt need a 25 year payscale.
What the PS workers have to do in return?... read it and come back to meWhat small print? That the deal is subject to economic conditions. What do people expect the Government to say?
Out of interest how do clerical officer pay rates compare with bank, insurance company, call centre, multinational general employee etc.?
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What the PS workers have to do in return?... read it and come back to me
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Clerical officers are similar to general office workers in e.g banks, insurance companies, call centres, multinational general employee etc. I would regard an "office junior" as someone just out of school or on work experience who is making the tea and doing gofor type stuff.
Out of interest how do clerical officer pay rates compare with bank, insurance company, call centre, multinational general employee etc.?
You mean be flexible in their working practices? Work a bit harder? Promotion and increments progression linked to performance?
Wow, that is slavery
Can't believe I let myself be dragged into one of these discussions again! We will agree to disagree.
As I said get all the facts and come back to me
You have no idea
Who's blaming the Public Sector?Its true though, but thats not the PS workers fault is it?
Time to stop blaming the wrong people
If that's all they think it will do then they are bigger idiots than I thouight they were.The Unions are of course aware that the rejection of the deal would also cause the Government borrowing difficulties.
Not saying it is. Simply point out moaning about the pay cut they had to take, maybe they should stand back and thank their lucky stars that they are not taking a 100% pay cut. Most of the people on the dole lines did not cause this crisis either.
If that's all they think it will do then they are bigger idiots than I thouight they were.
I don't agree with that. I think that public sector employees have a right to feel aggrieved. It doesn't change reality though.
Feeling angry about pay cuts/pension levy is perfectly understandable. However, anger doesn't justify irrationality and immorality.
Consider the position of Protestants in Ulster who felt deeply aggrieved at the loss of their privileged access to jobs and housing - they had developed a sense of entitlement over generations, and felt threatened and angry when their hegemony was challenged by Catholics, and ultimately the British government.
The PS situation is analogous to Ulster at that time - a privileged group, fighting to defend the indefensible.
The only way to sustain the PS at its current size is to continue borrowing at unsustainable levels, and to increase tax levels even more drastically.This approach would of course ultimately destroy the country.
The painful reality is that the PS must be downsized significantly, and radically reformed to deliver services efficiently and cost effectively.
Ulster said 'no', the PS says 'no', the people of Ireland must say 'yes', to any political party that is willing to take the brave and courageous decisions to face down the PS, unions and other vested interest groups - to save Ireland from disaster.
What a strange analogy !
One could equally compare Union members to a unfairly treated Catholic minority unfairly targeted by a despotic Government.