Using Éire?

betsy og said:
the more pressing point for you should be the notion of "down the country" which is this homogenous haze that exists beyond newlands cross, the lack of knowledge of your average dub of anything beyond his side of the capital is bleedin shockin, d'yaknowwhharrrime-an? :d
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Betsy Og said:
The more pressing point for you should be the notion of "down the country" which is this homogenous haze that exists beyond Newlands Cross, the lack of knowledge of your average Dub of anything beyond his side of the capital is bleedin shockin, d'yaknowwhharrrime-an? :D
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A friend of mine from home (Roscommon) was working in Dublin about 12 years ago and was asked (by a middle-aged female Dub) "Is that in County Athlone?". She was serious!!

I think it was all he could do not to throttle the woman !


But on the whole Ireland thing...I think this sums it up well...

Ireland is an island to the west of Britain , but Northern Ireland is just off the mainland –
not the Irish mainland, the British mainland.

(Look, if you wanted a region where politics are easier to understand, you should have gone to the Balkans. Now pay attention.)

The capital of Ireland is Dublin . It has a population of in excess of a million people, all of whom will be shopping in Newry this afternoon. They travel to Newry because it is in the North, which is not part of Ireland .

Under the Irish constitution, the North used to be part of Ireland - but a successful 30-year campaign of violence for Irish unity ensured that it is now definitely in the UK . We have our Northern politicians – especially the ex-terrorists among them – to thank for that!

Belfast is the capital of Northern Ireland . It has a population of half a million, half of whom have houses in Donegal. Donegal is in the north but not in the North. It is in the South. No, not the south, the South.
(Those who cannot follow this might like to go off to the Giant’s Causeway instead. You cannot miss it – it is near a car park and has no Interpretative Centre. Look out for funny shaped rocks.)

There are two parliaments in Ireland . The Dublin parliament is called the Dáil, an Irish word meaning a place ‘where banks receive taxpayers’ money’. The one in Belfast is called Stormont, an Anglo-Saxon word meaning placebo, or deliberately ineffective drug. It does nothing but people seem to be happy with that.

Their respective jurisdictions are defined by the border, an imaginary line on the map to show fuel launderers where to dump chemical waste.
(Note for Americans tracing their ancestors – fuel launderers are descendants of one branch of the ancient Irish tribe known as Na Níteoirí [launderers]. They are found today mainly near the border. The other branch of the family, money launderers, are found all over Ireland . It was Na Níteoirí Ola who composed the ancient Irish air, “I love the smell of freshly laundered diesel in the morning.”)

Protestants are in favour of the border, which generates millions of pounds in smuggling for Catholics, who are opposed to it.

(Note for Germans learning English: a cross-border body is an organisation, not a Sinn Féin minister who travels frequently between Belfast and Dublin .
Not be confused with a cross border-body which is InterTrade Ireland.)

Travel between the two states is complicated because Ireland is the only country in the world with two M1 motorways. The one in the North goes west to avoid the South and the one in the South goes north to avoid the Vat man.

We have two types of democracy in Ireland . Dublin democracy works by holding a referendum and then allowing the government to judge the result.
If the government thinks the result is wrong, the referendum is held again. Twice in recent years the government decided the people’s choice was wrong and ordered a new referendum.
(Note to visitors from North Korea – we told you that you would feel at home in Ireland .)

Belfast democracy works differently. It has a parliament with no opposition, so the government is always right. This system generates envy in many world capitals, especially Dublin . Sadly it doesn’t work, because … well, its Members don’t work.

Ireland has three economies – northern, southern and black. Only the black economy is in the black. The other two are in the red.

All IRAs claim to be the real IRA but only one of them is the Real IRA. The North’s biggest industry is the production of IRAs. We now have the Provisional, Official, Continuity and Real IRAs. The Real IRA is by far the most popular among young graffiti writers because it is the easiest to spell.
(Literacy levels are improving. Department of Education inspectors report that every Catholic child at Key Stage 2 can now spell IRA.)

So now the rest of you want to go to the Giant’s Causeway as well?
Fine, but before you go, did you know that the causeway was an attempt in the Tertiary geological period to build an Interpretative Centre but the developer ran out of political connections?

Oh dear, they appear to have gone –
which shows that politicians may advocate tourism but the systems and society they have produced do little to encourage it.
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Waggon (wagon?)

I love that one. Please tell me there is a semi-obscure origin as gaelige of that one?
 
English people saying Eire annoys me for all the reasons people have mentioned but I understand that some of them think that is the correct term. The worst is when they INSIST that it's what Irish people always call it and it's more correct than saying 'Ireland'.
 
I don't see the harm in people calling this country Eire.
I sometimes ask Spanish friends/colleagues if they are going to back to 'Espana' on holidays etc ? No offence meant, and none is ever taken.
 
TarfHead said:
I get more agitated about references to this country as 'The South'. I can understand (though not agree with) Nordies using the term; Unionists who want to demean this country, Shinners who are holding out for a 32 county country. But when RTE and other media channels do it, I get annoyed.

I have been in Donegal (Culdaff), which is further north than any point in Northern Ireland, and heard Nordies refer to being in 'The South' :rolleyes:.

Where else in the world is a sovereign country referred to, in an offhand way, as being some geographic abstraction ?

If so, why can't people refer to Dublin as being The East. It's bad enough for people to get the name of my country wrong, without them implying that I might be from Cork :D !
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I get annoyed by that term, and people saying that I'm from 'Nordern Ireland' but hey there ya go. :rolleyes:
 
As the forming of the Republic, legally split the island in two, the UK did not wish to use the word "Ireland" to refer to the 26 counties as it had until recently used "Ireland" to refer to the entire island. By calling the legal country Eire, it had a term to refer to the 26 without including the 6.
 
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