Key Post UK State Pension - Make voluntary contributions to qualify for UK pension on top of Irish pension

If you applied already and got an app number then you should get a letter depending on whether you did it fully online or printed it and posted it. The latter will take much longer than doing it 100% online which is what I did.
 
My wife made 3 phonecalls to uk pensions today and now considers herself an expert on how to pay back payments .
Firstly the are so backlogged that they admitted it may up to 57 weeks for them to update your online details. So don't panic. Once you are in the system they have to deal with you eventually.
Secondly the penalty could be up to 10% of payments going forward if you do not pay them before the penalty date.
 
Two good things to report. They have finally (8 years I think?) fixed the problem where you couldn't get an HMRC login if you had an Irish passport - you can now use the app with the chip on your passport to identify yourself.

Also if you have to ring HMRC, do this at 08.30 - I got through in less than 5 mins today. Delighted to report the charming Andrew, who I spoke to, could see my payment from October which had not been updated in my record (reason for call), and told me to pay for 2023-2025 you can ring after April when 24 and 25 will be set up on their system.

It's time consuming and a painfully confusing procedure, but well worth it in the end. Especially if you have documentation to show you were self employed, so entitled to Class 2 contributions.
 
Hi there , can I check the phone number your wife used please ? I have sent off my form CF83 last August 24 by registered post , it is confirmed as received on An Post tracking but haven’t heard a word since , I rang 00441912183600 and it’s sending me to uk revenue Hmrc and I can’t find a person to talk to .. I am trying to find out how much I need to pay and whether it’s class 2 or 3 , any advice appreciated , I haven’t tried the app , is it too late now that I have started the paper process .?
 
awalsc said:
form CF83 last August 24 by registered post
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You definitely should have heard back by now.

This is the number listed for voluntary NICs - + 44 191 203 7010 Have your NI number to hand & be prepared to sit on the phone for a while, put the call on speaker & have your knitting / snacks / good book to read.
 
 
magscollins said:
If you applied already and got an app number then you should get a letter depending on whether you did it fully online or printed it and posted it. The latter will take much longer than doing it 100% online which is what I did.
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what is "app number" I just have a reference number of letter "Our Ref ICW-EU-DMS-xxxxxxxxxxxx" and my NI number and date at beginning of letter?
 
Do you need to be currently working in Ireland to pay back years?

 
Just called 0044 191 203 7010 and waited about 20 mins and then spoke to a lovely lady who confirmed receipt of my payment in Dec 2024 and took note of the allocation preference and told me that there is currently a 57 week backlog on allocating the payments onto the specific years.
 
Danny & Mags, I rang the above number yesterday and got through. They had my CF83 and cover letter and had posted out a response. She read the response. Turns out I don't qualify as I need three years in a row and that was the issue. I had three years but not consecutive. So that's the end of that.

Thanks for all your help on here.
 
I sent the payment after a received a request from them. Many months ago. However it hadn’t shown up. I called them and asked why not and they said it needed to be allocated which they are now doing.
However they hung up/got cut off before I could ask about future payments. But I have the details now in my Revolut so I will set up a reminder each year. Since I’m caught up I presume it’ll be more straightforward to allocate from now on and I won’t need to spend an hour on the phone to them
 
Hi, sorry for hijacking the thread apologies if there is a more relevant one I should be looking at only I have a question that to date no one has been able to answer, so here goes.

I have been paying class 2 NI contributions since moving full time to Ireland in 2007 and now have the 35 years contributions needed for a full UK state pension.

I am full time working in Ireland since 2007 paying PRSI so to date approx 18 years of contributions.

Question, if I continue to pay class 2 NI in UK, when I get to Irish state pension age (66) can I transfer any un-needed UK NI contributions into my Irish PRSI contributions, I know you can definitely transfer contributions from other states into the Irish system but was looking to get clarity on whether to continue buying the UK contributions as there is no point buying them if I don't get to use them?

Thanks
 
Thanks, I was sure you can transfer in contributions from other jurisdictions as before the generous deal the HMRC offered anyone who had paid NI contributions in UK, I was reading that people were using their UK contributions to make up lost years in PRSI contributions.

Its a case of who would/should know, UK or Irish state pension departments.

Thanks
 
Ah ok, fair enough won't be making any further NIC contributions then.

Thanks for the advice, slowly reading my way through the thread now.

Thanks
 

It looks like my records for the three years (2021/22, 2022/23 and 2023/24) have finally been updated. It now says 'You have contributions from Self-employment: 52 weeks' for each year, so I'm assuming this is how it should look for years where an overseas voluntary national insurance contribution has been made? I kind of expected it to say contributions from employment abroad or something along those lines as I'm not self-employed. Maybe I need to contact them to see if they have made a mistake when allocating my payments?



 
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