Key Post UK State Pension - Make voluntary contributions to qualify for UK pension on top of Irish pension

Hi all .. thanks for the help in this thread, thanks to ask about money advice I applied for class 2 contributions last August and finally got my letter through confirming I can pay back class 2 ( I had 19 years contributions)
Anyone who has received this letter..did you pay the backdated payments via your Irish bank account? There are instructions on the website how to pay back from an overseas account..but I am a bit nervous of doing this esp when I think there is a limit on my account what I can pay someone for the first time?
How did people go about paying back the shortfall?


Thanks
 
Miracle Girl said:
There are instructions on the website how to pay back from an overseas account..but I am a bit nervous of doing this esp when I think there is a limit on my account what I can pay someone for the first time?
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I doubt you will run into issues making the payment.

The money laundering risk is more at the recipient end and that account gets tens of thousands of payments from all over the world every week so I doubt is anything will be blocked.
 
I've just registered and it seems that I have 7 full years though I was only there for less than 4. Anyway, I think the next step is to fill in the form and post it..am I right in thinking there's no email facility?
Also some of my employment history in Ireland was a bit chequered..Will this affect how much I can contribute? Thanks so much for your help and advice on this matter.
 
This thread got very unwieldy so I have moved some of the discussions into separate threads - please do not ask about these issues in this thread.

If you ask about these issues in this thread, your question will be deleted.

UK State Pension - finding their online system difficult to navigate​

How do I get assistance on the website? I'm trying to register the gov gateway but when I get to the identity part, after it says international passport, on the next page it's UK passport only.
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UK State pension - Am I class 2 or Class 3​

How much does it cost to make a voluntary contribution? Most common is either Class 2 or Class 3 contributions: Class 2 will be cheaper, but even if you are assessed as Class 3 it's still worth doing. Class 2 Annually: £163.80 (GBP) - £3.15 per week Class 3 Annually: £824.20 (GBP) - £15.85 per...
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"I am 50 should, I make Class 3 contributions to UK pension?"​

Class 3 is still worth paying for most people. Each year will cost you £824 Each year purchased will get you an extra £275 a year in state pension and the £275 increases with inflation. If you are 65, getting an immediate return of £275 a year on £824 is great value. You will break even in 4...
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Could the rules change before the UK pension is drawn down?​

Everything in this discussion assumes that the rules won't change. If you are 65, it's unlikely that the rules will change before you qualify for the pension. but if you are 30 they might well do. Would the UK re-joining the EU change the ability to qualify for two pensions? The UK could...
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What is the state pension age in the UK?​

You can retire when ever you want but UK state pension pays out at age 67. To answer your Q2. Yes it applies and cost per year is posted in the key post. State pension age in the UK is currently 66, and will still be 66 for at least the next three years.
 
Miracle Girl said:
Hi all .. thanks for the help in this thread, thanks to ask about money advice I applied for class 2 contributions last August and finally got my letter through confirming I can pay back class 2 ( I had 19 years contributions)
Anyone who has received this letter..did you pay the backdated payments via your Irish bank account? There are instructions on the website how to pay back from an overseas account..but I am a bit nervous of doing this esp when I think there is a limit on my account what I can pay someone for the first time?
How did people go about paying back the shortfall?


Thanks
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DannyBoyD said:
Yep - envelope & a stamp. Given how long they are taking to reply, I would send by recorded delivery.

Won't make any difference, as long as you worked when you moved / returned to Ireland you can pay class 2, otherwise it might be class 3
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DannyBoyD, do you know if its correct that if your CF38 form plus cover letter are received before the July deadline, then you will be able to make the back payments going back as far as 2006? I will have to wait for their reply before I know if I am assessed as Cat 2 or Cat3, and therefore can't make any payments until that is confirmed. In my case, judging by other posts, this will be well beyond the July deadline. Thanks
 
davy200 said:
DannyBoyD, do you know if its correct that if your CF38 form plus cover letter are received before the July deadline, then you will be able to make the back payments going back as far as 2006? I will have to wait for their reply before I know if I am assessed as Cat 2 or Cat3, and therefore can't make any payments until that is confirmed. In my case, judging by other posts, this will be well beyond the July deadline. Thanks
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Credit to @NoRegretsCoyote : Ministerial statement is here

 
Thanks again Ive just sent my letter applying for class 2. Do I pay class 2 now, wait until I get a reply or do I pay class 3? Also can someone direct me to where I can pay please or the details?
 
Cogwheel said:
Thanks again Ive just sent my letter applying for class 2. Do I pay class 2 now, wait until I get a reply or do I pay class 3? Also can someone direct me to where I can pay please or the details?
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I applied to pay class 2 last year, got my letter of them accepting my application in June last year. Like others here it wasn't clear how I needed to pay. Anyhow, finally got around to contacting them in the last two weeks to find out as I was never sent or was given this 18 digit number reference number and after speaking to someone they told me the 18 digit number in my case was my UK NI number plus 'IC' and then a few letters of my surname and I could do it by bank transfer and did it by Revolut. The person said if I got all paid up I could increase my forecast (due in 2025) by about £80 per week. Also she said she'd put notes on my case to update my forecast with a letter and a receipt of my payment etc so hopefully that'll all work out...
 
When I sent my payment via Revolut, I put my NI number followed the letters "IC" followed by my full surname and lastly the first letter of my christian name so for example somebody called John Smith with a NI number of NY123407C would enter NY123407CICSMITHJ as the reference. I rang a couple of weeks after sending the money and told them which years the payment was for and they updated the system.
 
Knowledgequest said:
I rang a couple of weeks after sending the money and told them which years the payment was for and they updated the system.
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That's good. What I have done is make separate payments for each year and then I write them a letter saying which year I expect them to credit the payments for. I generally get a letter back a few months later confirming it.
 
@DannyBoyD and all the other contributors-First time poster - Thanks so much for posting this information. As a result from these posts , I finally managed to register for a gateway ID and get it verified ( not via App which wouldn't sync , but manual verification worked). Did this for my wife as well - we both have a 10 year gap we can look at paying the voluntary contributions. Sounds like it will be a while before we get final confirmation, but this could make a huge difference for us. Your clarity in breaking it down to the individual steps and encouragement to do it was a great help. Keep up the great work!
 
I was retired at 60 when I applied to buy back UK-NI contributions. I was able to buy class 2 for my years working up to retirement.I was advised to send a record of where I worked since leaving employment in the UK. Once you retire you have to pay the more expensive class 3 contributions. So buy early when working,it’s so much cheaper!
 
I have sent my cf83 form off today with covering letter by registered post. I have a year to go to retirement so hopefully it will be sorted by then. The NI38 information document said to enclose proof of employment for class 2, which I did, but they may ask for more info yet.

Julia 20, Did you have get a statement from your employer?
 
Hi Guys

Great thread. I have a query about the address. I have two forms one of which is the CF83 Dated 2015 and another dated 2019 with different addresses as below

CF83(20I5)
Return the completed form to:
HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC),
NIC&EO, International Caseworker,
Benton Park View,
NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE,
NE98 1ZZ,
England.


CF83(2019)
Return the completed form to:
PT Operations North East England
HM Revenue and Customs
BX9 1AN
United Kingdom

Which one is correct, I assume the more recent one !
 
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