Even the greatest advotes of capatialism would aggree with me that the world is becoming smaller in terms of the movement of goods people and services. My point was that this has oppurtunities and potential costs for workers accross the globe. It is not enough as in the past for workers in countries to unit to effectively tackle exploitation, they must unite transnationally. In this great world of global competition you talk about there is winners and loosers. and the loosers are hundreds of millions of people for whom capitialism has failed. Not because capitialism is bad but because it has allowed to go unchecked.
Whereas I am saying the opposite - I am saying that the improvement in workers rights through the late nineteenth/early twentieth century, in particular education improvements (which I apologise for not mentioning initially!) led to greater democracy.No, I am saying that one lead to the other. The rest of your post is correct in fact. No confusion here.
I don't think they can be separated but the innovations and societal changes resulting from the population drop started the ball rolling. Urbanisation, education, political enlightenment, liberal humanism, labour organisation and most importantly the need for a skilled workforce, and the empowerment that this gave to average citizens, were all factors that increased the rate of change.Whereas I am saying the opposite - I am saying that the improvement in workers rights through the late nineteenth/early twentieth century, in particular education improvements (which I apologise for not mentioning initially!) led to greater democracy.
Public sector workers with similar qualification levels lag significanly behind the private sector equilivent in terms of pay, and that is after sucessive round of benchmarking. That is a fact.
well why dont they join the private sector so for the big money. i hear these stories about people on 30k with a degree and masters in the civil service. in my opinoin if a person has those qualifications and isnt being paid properly then that their own fault. they obviously have no drive or ambition .
by the way thats the way it should work. a person should have less pay in the PS due to the job for life scenario. we have being saying this for the whole post. PS workers cant have pay equality and the job for life as well
And we'd see the true crime stats too.if the gardai put everything in a computer rather than a notepad then were would be no chance of a report going "missing", that would upset some people im afraid
While our comrades in the jobs for life, gauranteed pension sector go looking for pay rises. It is no wonder people are angry.
What people deserve and what their employer can afford to give them are not the same thing.There are lots of good people in the public sector who make a real contribution and probably deserve increases.
What people deserve and what their employer can afford to give them are not the same thing.
aon - when you say you would accept a pay freeze are you saying you would accept a real pay freeze or still get your increment and not get a new bench marking
In these countries government has failed to govern for the people and so some of those with power have used that power to exploit their fellow citizens. The instrument of that exploitation can be capital, military or politics (and often all three). You are seeing the symptom as the cause.
Here's a question, I have asked you before but I will ask again as I am interested in your answer. If you have the choice of buying a computer which was made in China for €300 or one made by Irish employees for €1200 which would you buy?
In this scenario employees in both countries are paid a good living wage, it just so happens that a good living wage in China is one twentieth of a good living wage in Ireland. So neither group of employees are exploited..
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
Please, more about the public sector in this thread. Not been discussed enough.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrgggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!
Please, more about the public sector in this thread. Not been discussed enough.
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