Blackrock1
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Might be a good summer plan but not really for winter unless you have a massive battery, HP can use 20-30 KWH on a cold day.With the battery though, is it not more likely that a smart plan could be a lot cheaper for you? Fully charge your battery overnight for ~7c per kWh rather than using excess during the day that could be sold for 24c, make sure underfloor heating is on a schedule to avoid the peak hours and you're laughing.
you are probably aware but they are installing smart meters now that allow you to remain on a legacy d/n plan and indeed switch to a new d/n plan. We are also on a d/n plan, have ufh and an ev so works for us but have a smart meter.
Energypal.ie will help you there. As you have a smart meter you can download your data from esb networks. Upload it to energy pal and it tells you exactly what plans would save you money based on your usageI have a smart meter and a legacy d/n plan; and I regularly check the electricity marketplace hoping to identify a smart package that would be economically attractive to me. By the way, I'm not in any way opposed to Smart Plans, but they've got to make some economic sense to me before I'll consider switching.
like Marsupial there isnt a smart plan that betters my current d/n offering from Bord Gais ( i have used energy pal to check)Energypal.ie will help you there. As you have a smart meter you can download your data from esb networks. Upload it to energy pal and it tells you exactly what plans would save you money based on your usage
Energypal.ie will help you there. As you have a smart meter you can download your data from esb networks. Upload it to energy pal and it tells you exactly what plans would save you money based on your usage
Thanks for that. I will mention to her your comment to try to assuage her fears regarding the amount of smart meters affixed to the (block concrete) outer wall of her apartment.I presume she also has a microwave, hairdryer and washing machine in addition to a mobile phone. All produce small levels of RF Radiation - but at a high rate than smart meters.
If she is on public transport or in a busy office she will be in close proximity to dozen of people with mobile phones constantly emitting rf radiation at several times the level of smart meters.
The problem is flat earth / covid denier types coupled with daily mail type sensationalism that you see far too often. Usually a non-peer reviewed piece of "research" by dubious "experts" add in the word CANCER to get headlines and notice.
Example was the headline a few years ago that "eating minced beef can cause elevated chance of cancer". This is actually true - HOWEVER, when peer reviewed they said you would need to be eating 1kg (7 quarter pounders) of minced beef every day for over 20 years for it to have a noticeable increased chance of cancer - an elevated risk of cancer will be the very least of your health issues if you consumed that many burgers. But the daily mail and flat earth types "forgot" to mention that part
Indeed.And when the answer is "none of them" then the best option is to remain with my current plan!
It's probably been said before but, the EnergyPal site, especially once you have a suitable sample of smart meter data via the My Smart Data site, is really the go to place to make sense of the available smart plans and find the best one for your needs and usage profile...The hysteria around smart meter plans is confusing to me.
People are spending hours reading message boards convincing themselves that Smart Meters are the devil.
When 10 minutes research on the Energy suppliers site clears upallmost of the misconceptions.
Well said ClubMan. EnergyPal showed me all the available plans and the cost difference between the best and worst was massive. Best plan for my actual historical usage was roughly 1000 euro per year. The worst plan was roughly 2500 euro. That's some amount of saving!It's probably been said before but, the EnergyPal site, especially once you have a suitable sample of smart meter data via the My Smart Data site, is really the go to place to make sense of the available smart plans and find the best one for your needs and usage profile...
The regulator is currently voicing concerns about the lack of movement to smart plans, They're increasing the number of smart plans that providers are allowed to offer in the hopes that will allow for more compelling offerings.Is there a possibility once a high majority switch to smart plans then they will suddenly become less attractive as you can go back?
The regulator is currently voicing concerns about the lack of movement to smart plans, They're increasing the number of smart plans that providers are allowed to offer in the hopes that will allow for more compelling offerings.
Unlikely, they're increasing the limit from 4 to 6.While that sounds hopeful, I really hope that the electricity market won't end up like the Private Health Insurance market where there appears to be a different policy for every day of the year.
Maybe my views are old school but anything that people in general require to either live or are required by law to have like electricity, gas, car insurance should be run by the Government so as to ensure fair rates and not greed.The regulator is currently voicing concerns about the lack of movement to smart plans, They're increasing the number of smart plans that providers are allowed to offer in the hopes that will allow for more compelling offerings.
There are plenty of examples of where things run by the government here cost a lot more than private alternatives. It costs Dublin City Council 40% more to build housing (even where they already own the land) than they can buy a privately developed home.Maybe my views are old school but anything that people in general require to either live or are required by law to have like electricity, gas, car insurance should be run by the Government so as to ensure fair rates and not greed.
That’s all part of a wider conversation about our Governments inefficiency. I purposely didn’t mention housing when I gave examples but something like car insurance would be a good place to start imo.There are plenty of examples of where things run by the government here cost a lot more than private alternatives. It costs Dublin City Council 40% more to build housing (even where they already own the land) than they can buy a privately developed home.
Give me an example of a country where that has worked? Remember when the government ran Aer Lingus and it cost hundreds to flay anywhere?That’s all part of a wider conversation about our Governments inefficiency. I purposely didn’t mention housing when I gave examples but something like car insurance would be a good place to start imo.
Parts of CanadaGive me an example of a country where that has worked? Remember when the government ran Aer Lingus and it cost hundreds to flay anywhere?
Remember paying 50p for a 1min call with Telecom. And is it 70quid to pay for an NCT ?
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