Yep, we'll be a beacon of light (literally) in the Nuclear Winter that destroys all the non-neutral countries. It's completely logical.But, but, but, surely our precious, cherished and beloved neutrality will protect us from all harm. Someone should really explain it to that chap on the video and make sure to tell that nice Mr Putin also. Maybe Ming-n-Mick-n-Claire could have a word with their pals in Moscow. We'll be grand then. Apparently radioactive fallout respects neutrality too and will automatically avoid us. Happy days!
Military neutrality is a long standing government policy, not a constitutional position. Being part of a EU rapid reaction force, being aligned to NATO from an equipment and training perspective (as we are anyway) and being able to defend ourselves just required some allocation of resources.While some are gung-ho for Ireland to join NATO or an EU Army I expect that a large majority would oppose such a move. To get either option over the line the State would have to guarantee that should there be a need for conscription, conscripts would not be obliged to serve beyond the island of Ireland.
Having a proper army might attract more and better people to join.Recruitment and retention seem to be a challenge for the defence forces as is and I suspect that the prospect of being sent to fight a war on the fringes of NATO, the EU or beyond would not improve things in this regard.
The "British Isles" doesn't exist. Take a look at the wording of the Good Friday Agreement.Methinks we might be better to co-operate closely with the UK to develop improved air and sea defence for the British Isles as a whole.
Yes, indeed. Although it seems that article 29.9 of the Constitution would block joining an EU army . . "The State shall not adopt a decision taken by the European Council to establish a common defence pursuant to Article 42 of the Treaty on European Union where that common defence would include the State."Military neutrality is a long standing government policy, not a constitutional position.
Neither the EU nor NATO has an army.While some are gung-ho for Ireland to join NATO or an EU Army I expect that a large majority would oppose such a move. To get either option over the line the State would have to guarantee that should there be a need for conscription, conscripts would not be obliged to serve beyond the island of Ireland.
Recruitment and retention seem to be a challenge for the defence forces as is and I suspect that the prospect of being sent to fight a war on the fringes of NATO, the EU or beyond would not improve things in this regard.
Methinks we might be better to co-operate closely with the UK to develop improved air and sea defence for the British Isles as a whole.
That will also mean difficult decisions ,the British might not be willing to cooperate on our terms , they would likely want to be able to access our ports and airports and want to place radar or sophisticated kit that the Irish army don't possess .Methinks we might be better to co-operate closely with the UK to develop improved air and sea defence for the British Isles as a whole.
I presume they are Nuking Donegal because their mate Mick's gaff is in Wexford.I see the Russians are plotting nuking lil' ol' us. We will be made to pay for the bravado of a few fishermen.
While some are gung-ho for Ireland to join NATO or an EU Army I expect that a large majority would oppose such a move. To get either option over the line the State would have to guarantee that should there be a need for conscription, conscripts would not be obliged to serve beyond the island of Ireland.
Recruitment and retention seem to be a challenge for the defence forces as is and I suspect that the prospect of being sent to fight a war on the fringes of NATO, the EU or beyond would not improve things in this regard.
Methinks we might be better to co-operate closely with the UK to develop improved air and sea defence for the British Isles as a whole.
That will also mean difficult decisions ,the British might not be willing to cooperate on our terms , they would likely want to be able to access our ports and airports and want to place radar or sophisticated kit that the Irish army don't possess .
They will obviously sense that we are getting more anxious about our defence and will use that to drive a better bargain.
Alot of sacred cows are going to have to be jettisoned shortly. This will be very difficult territory for SF.
Indeed. Is such not essentially limited to UN Peacekeeping missions and some EUFOR misadventures?The Defence Forces already have a system for mandatory overseas service. However, every single person who joins (as a professional soldier) agrees to this system.
Were Ireland to join NATO might the 'prospect' be more real? I don't doubt that Ireland has work to do on defence and security but I don't think it is imperative that we join NATO.That fact does not influence recruitment and retention now, nor will it in the future because the 'prospect of being sent to fight a war' is not a reality.
Indeed. Is such not essentially limited to UN Peacekeeping missions and some EUFOR misadventures?
Were Ireland to join NATO might the 'prospect' be more real? I don't doubt that Ireland has work to do on defence and security but I don't think it is imperative that we join NATO.
Two good candidates for Sentence of the Year Award on AAM!Deployment of the DF abroad is decided on approval by the Dáil and the governments of Ireland, Russia, China, the US, France and the UK.
In this moment, our response is abhorrent and being perpetuated by the clinging on to an outdated policy for fear of what might happen in the future, if we join a collective defence agreement and if a democratically elected Irish government votes for something that might also be supported by other democratically elected governments, that might be seen as US imperialism, all the while watching and tacitly supporting actual Russian imperialism today.
I presume they are Nuking Donegal because their mate Mick's gaff is in Wexford.
I'd have thought it prudent to consider what-ifs re any major policy decision. Ireland has condemned the Russian invasion, has supported 5 rounds of EU sanctions, voted for UN resolutions damning Russia's actions, provided aid and accepted refugees . . methinks 'tacitly supporting Russian imperialism' might be a bit of a stretch.In this moment, our response is abhorrent and being perpetuated by the clinging on to an outdated policy for fear of what might happen in the future, if we join a collective defence agreement and if a democratically elected Irish government votes for something that might also be supported by other democratically elected governments, that might be seen as US imperialism, all the while watching and tacitly supporting actual Russian imperialism today.
No, they'll have a special military operation to deal with them boyos.I thought it was because they were scared of the West Cork Fishermen
We have failed to give a democracy which is being attacked by a dictatorship the aid it asked for and needs.I'd have thought it prudent to consider what-ifs re any major policy decision. Ireland has condemned the Russian invasion, has supported 5 rounds of EU sanctions, voted for UN resolutions damning Russia's actions, provided aid and accepted refugees . . methinks 'tacitly supporting Russian imperialism' might be a bit of a stretch.
I agree that we should have given Ukraine anything we have that they could use.We have failed to give a democracy which is being attacked by a dictatorship the aid it asked for and needs.
No, they'll have a special military operation to deal with them boyos.
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