Duke of Marmalade
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There is no free press in Russia. The USA has a free press and about 30% of the electorate think that Trump really won the last election. Ireland has a free press and 40% of the people think that the Shinners will solve the housing crisis and taxing the rich will fix everything. I wouldn't be too hard on the Russians.There has to be consequences for Russian people in all this. Not demonised but they need to get the message.
They can't be the only ones to not experience impacts from this, given what is happening in Ukraine.There is no press press in Russia. The USA has a free press and about 30% of the electorate think that Trump really won the last election. Ireland has a free press and 40% of the people think that the Shinners will solve the housing crisis and taxing the rich will fix everything. I wouldn't be too hard on the Russians.
Look at America and Trump and the working poor who vote for the Party that serves the super rich.They can't be the only ones to not experience impacts from this, given what is happening in Ukraine.
They need to see empty shelves. They need to ask questions about why they were thrown out of the world cup. Why their currency is losing value. Why they can't travel etc etc
Especially because they don't have a free press who won't ask those questions of the government directly.
People there remember the empty shelves and queuing for food in the 1980s. Putin was supposed to have banished all that.Look at America and Trump and the working poor who vote for the Party that serves the super rich.
Look at Brexit and the poor who voted out of the EU.
Look at Ireland where the people who are priced out of the housing market support the Party which wants to abolish Property Tax.
All that in countries with a free press. People are smart but the mob is stupid.
That's very true but he can blame the West. There's nothing like a wold at the door to unite people. There's nothing like fear to motivate people to surrender their rights. Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." It wasn't said in this context but nevertheless it is very apt in this context. Interestingly it was a pro-taxation, pro-government point but that's a different discussion.People there remember the empty shelves and queuing for food in the 1980s. Putin was supposed to have banished all that.
Things like that eat away at the regime.
Nice one, @Purple. Is that one of your own, or is it Shakespeare?Purple said:People are smart but the mob is stupid.
It means EU countries have to buy Roubles to pay for the gas which props up the currency.At risk of going down a rabbit hole, how does paying for gas in roubles help Putin? He already insists that Gazprom exchanges 80% of its foreign revenue into roubles. If Russia has monopolistic control of gas to EU/Germany why not just put up the price.
I've very few original thoughts so I probably lifted it from somewhere. I also have an exceptionally bad memory so I can't remember from where.Nice one, @Purple. Is that one of your own, or is it Shakespeare?
But that’s not quite the same thing as denying a war on their doorstep.Look at America and Trump and the working poor who vote for the Party that serves the super rich.
Look at Brexit and the poor who voted out of the EU.
Look at Ireland where the people who are priced out of the housing market support the Party which wants to abolish Property Tax.
My point is that people believe all sorts of rubbish even when the facts are freely available. Believing rubbish when all you have is rubbish is, therefore, not that surprising.But that’s not quite the same thing as denying a war on their doorstep.
"Ukrainian woman on pain and heartache of Russian family who 'don’t believe war is happening'
‘My mother says I am betraying Russia’: Putin’s invasion divides the generations"
Might deserve a new thread, rabbit hole country here.It means EU countries have to buy Roubles to pay for the gas which props up the currency.
It means that the Rouble becomes the reserve currency for Russian gas so its value is tied to the value of gas, not the Russian economy.Might deserve a new thread, rabbit hole country here.
1 euro = 100 roubles
Today Germany pays Gazprom 100 euro for a bushel of gas; Gazprom pays the Russian Central Bank 100 euro for 10k roubles
Under new rules Germany pays Russian CB 100 euro for 10k roubles and then pays Gazprom 10k roubles for a bushel of gas
What's the diff?
Maybe, I read something of the sort in my Googles but I am finding my economics very rusty, anyway 'nuff said.It means that the Rouble becomes the reserve currency for Russian gas so its value is tied to the value of gas, not the Russian economy.
Maybe that's the Brucy Bonus that Valds is hoping for, to knock the mighty Greenback off it pedestal as the reserve currecy for oil & gas payments??It means that the Rouble becomes the reserve currency for Russian gas so its value is tied to the value of gas, not the Russian economy.
The Iraqis tried to sell oil in Euro, shortly before the Americans mistakenly thought that had WMD's and Venezuela talked about it shortly before there happened to be a Coup attempt.Maybe that's the Brucy Bonus that Valds is hoping for, to knock the mighty Greenback off it pedestal as the reserve currecy for oil & gas payments??
Not too familiar with Greenwald's story I think.He's entitled to his opinion and luckily he can express one without the risk of going to jail for 15 years!