Very simple, a quango is Govt owned, a non quango isn't. So Trocaire, as a case in point, would be a non-quango, HSE would be Govt ownedI'm not sure what you mean by "quango" in this context. Are all of the 11,500 charities that are not established by the state quangos? If not, what's the distiction between a quango charity and a non-quango charity?
The NESC. That's a great example. They cost the State around €2.5 million a year. They have 18 full-time employees. By what metric is their value for money measured?There are benefits to having a variety of providers of social and health care.
They are all funded by the State though, and that's what matters.I suspect every AHB, most primary schools (excl. ETB) and many secondary schools (excl. ETB) is a registered charity.
None of them were established by the State.
The NESC. That's a great example. They cost the State around €2.5 million a year. They have 18 full-time employees. By what metric is their value for money measured?
Any organisation that listens to Sean Healy shouldn't be listened to.Have a look at its membership, then ask yourself how on earth Ireland would manage without it.
I'd absolutely love to be a member. They'd get rid of me within a week but my god, what a week that would be.29 members on NESC's Council.
The meetings must be hell.
I'd absolutely love to be a member. They'd get rid of me within a week but my god, what a week that would be.
A wise man (and former NESC Council member) once told me that NESC was the perfect forum for all these people to let off steam in the one place so that they wouldn't be going around annoying useful people instead.If it wasn't there, then they'd probably have to invent it!
Probably €2.5 million well spent so.A wise man (and former NESC Council member) once told me that NESC was the perfect forum for all these people to let off steam in the one place so that they wouldn't be going around annoying useful people instead.
OK, thanks. Quangos in that sense may or may not be registered as charities (depending on whether their purpose is charitable) but, charitable or not, they are all already subject to audit, etc, by the Comptroller and Auditor-General.Very simple, a quango is Govt owned, a non quango isn't. So Trocaire, as a case in point, would be a non-quango, HSE would be Govt owned
I get "owned" may be the wrong word here but it's the old "if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck test". If it looks like it is Govt controlled etc etc, then let the C&AG take oversight, not the Charity Regulator.
Not necessarily. The threshold for audit depends on what percentage of the charity’s revenue is from the government.they are all already subject to audit, etc, by the Comptroller and Auditor-General.