True, but they were killing British soldiers in Ireland.
I'm no student of history but as far as I recall the IRA weren't killing people in Belgium in 1916.
Very good point. I think I'll give you that one. Possibly the local FF/FG councillors saw it as a way to get at him, knowing his ultra orthodox views and he fell for it.I would respectfully disagree Duke. I'm quite used to seeing SF reps at senior level attend commemorations British War dead.
Michelle O Néill lays wreath.
It doesn't real sit well with the narrative that the AC are instructing boycotts of Garda commemorations but permitting attendance at British War commemorations, does it?
My gut instinct is that Mc Donncha did a solo run on this.
Perhaps he is not prepared to move on? Perhaps he has not grasped the shifting sands under his feet?
There is plenty of that, particularly in this jurisdiction.
I have no doubt that it was seen by some as a way to expose SF mixed standards on the matter.
Possibly the local FF/FG councillors saw it as a way to get at him, knowing his ultra orthodox views and he fell for it. Opportunistic or not
I said previously that you and I seemed to be in possession of different facts or something to that effect, I can’t check back on this device.If the people who killed prisoners to artillery shells and blew them up were still alive and running for office, or if those now running for office glorified those people and their actions, I would have the same problem with them that I do with SF/IRA.
FG didn't exist back then and nobody in office is over 120 years old.My facts suggest that FG is in fact in government, yours seem to be different.
Am I missing something?
No, that's not it.The office of the President of Ireland, sanctioned and endorsed by those sitting in government, still glorifys one of the perpetrators of an indiscriminate bombing campaigns in England that murdered a 14yr school boy.
The people you fear getting into office are already in office.
No, that's not it.
There was plenty of evil done in this country by 'devoutly religious men', much of it to women and children.I don't want to get involved in any of this except maybe to broaden the mind of some of you
Some don't seem to know much about the History of Ireland in the last 100 years,
At present, I am re-reading a book I came on when I was clearing out the attic,
The book is by Dr. Noel Browne who resigned from the inter-party government because of the resistance of all the main parties to the Mother and Child scheme,
The name of the book is
( Against The Tide,)
after reading it you would change your mind on who the real child killers in Ireland were for the last 100 years,
I am going to post an extract from page no 7, Childhood in Athlone, He also lived in Derry covered on page 1 I think,
The extract,
Much later in a diary kept by Pader Cowan an officer in the Free State army in Custom Barracks,
I read the blindingly whimsical system whereby the victims were chosen for death.
It was a simple process of taking a group of prisoners from each County, Between November 1922 and May 1923
seventy-seven Republican prisoners in all were to be executed without trial,
since these men had all being in custody at the time of the shooting of Hales and were known to be innocent of the assassination for which the reprisals were being carried out, their killing was indefensible,
The most stunning experience for me was to read how Peadar a parliamentary colleague of mine in later life
recounted the incident of the mass executions without showing any sense of horror shock, guilt, or concern whatever for the whole process or his own part in it, Yet Peadar was what is known in Ireland as 'a devoutly religious man,
Yea I do.You have no issue with those in high office glorifiying child killers.
The Catholic Church forbid a church service to the seventy-seven Executed their argument at the time is very close to yours today,There was plenty of evil done in this country by 'devoutly religious men', much of it to women and children.
Nobody comes out of the civil war looking good, particularly the Free State side. The deification of Collins and the demonisation of Dev is one of the strangest things that has happened in the last 30 years. Collins did the best thing anyone can to to protect their legacy and died young and then there was that awful film...
As in?The Catholic Church forbid a church service to the seventy-seven Executed their argument at the time is very close to yours today,
What did Labour do?It is not the state that needs to apologise FF/FG/Labour need to Issue an apology to all their victims,
I don't understand your point.pick one a group to Demonize and ignore the real issues involved,
I decided to broaden my mind and so I consulted Wiki on Free State executions. It is indeed as Browne described. 80 IRA prisoners were executed "legally" for offences like possession of arms. Many more were executed extra judicially. These were pure and simple random reprisals for IRA activity making no pretence to link those murdered with the crimes for which they were executed. This level of executions hugely exceeded the executions by the British following the Easter Rising and during the WoI. And of course nothing of this scale can be levelled against the British during the 30 years of the Troubles. (Not that the British on the world stage were always choir boys, but that is a different rabbit hole.)I don't want to get involved in any of this except maybe to broaden the mind of some of you
Some don't seem to know much about the History of Ireland in the last 100 years,
Doctor Noel Browne , A truly great man who endeavoured to bring in a mother and baby scheme in the late '40s which would have provided free medicine which foundered after opposition from private practice doctors and the Catholic Church who opposed " socialised medicine "I don't want to get involved in any of this except maybe to broaden the mind of some of you
Some don't seem to know much about the History of Ireland in the last 100 years,
At present, I am re-reading a book I came on when I was clearing out the attic,
The book is by Dr. Noel Browne who resigned from the inter-party government because of the resistance of all the main parties to the Mother and Child scheme,
The name of the book is
( Against The Tide,)
after reading it you would change your mind on who the real child killers in Ireland were for the last 100 years,
I am going to post an extract from page no 7, Childhood in Athlone, He also lived in Derry covered on page 1 I think,
The extract,
Much later in a diary kept by Pader Cowan an officer in the Free State army in Custom Barracks,
I read the blindingly whimsical system whereby the victims were chosen for death.
It was a simple process of taking a group of prisoners from each County, Between November 1922 and May 1923
seventy-seven Republican prisoners in all were to be executed without trial,
since these men had all being in custody at the time of the shooting of Hales and were known to be innocent of the assassination for which the reprisals were being carried out, their killing was indefensible,
The most stunning experience for me was to read how Peadar a parliamentary colleague of mine in later life
recounted the incident of the mass executions without showing any sense of horror shock, guilt, or concern whatever for the whole process or his own part in it, Yet Peadar was what is known in Ireland as 'a devoutly religious man,
It's amazing what people can overcome in life.Born in Bath Street , Waterford.
The blame needs to be laid at the door of the main political parties FF/FG/LAB and the need to apologize for all the people who lost their lives as a result of their closeness to vested interests,Doctor Noel Browne , A truly great man who endeavoured to bring in a mother and baby scheme in the late '40s which would have provided free medicine which foundered after opposition from private practice doctors and the Catholic Church who opposed " socialised medicine "
Born in Bath Street , Waterford.
They spent most of the last 100 years looking after vested interest and still do to this day to this very day,What did Labour do?
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