Paul Galvin incident.

[Sunny]

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Of course violence is accepted in the GAA until the Aussies do it and show the GAA guys that they are the not the hard men they thought they were and then suddenly we are throwing our toys out of the pram

This could go on and on but whats the point. By the way I love both GAA and soccer but I am not blinded to either sports faults.

 

[Ash 22]

My understanding is that he is charged under GAA rules with minor interferrance with a referree and that carries an automatic 3 month ban. The issue therefore is why the disciplinary bodies gave him a 6 month one.

The GAA could help themselves if they were more public about their deliberations around their processes. For example, why did they not explain why he got 6 months?

It's the county boards I detest on this, try and complain about a club suspicion or procedures to them and you often get no where yet they are ther first to go running seeking loopholes and intercounty level

It would be great if the next player who gets involved in an incident like this accepted responsibility and told his board not to appeal

Have to say, it'll be interesting to see the referees reaction if he is cleared

A few years back Waterford hurler John Mullane was put off, served his suspension, came back all the better for it. Probably cost that county dearly that year. Fair play to him.

 

[Ceist Beag]

Why do many people assume that sports people are or should be role models for others - especially kids - or that sport necessarily imparts good character traits?

Not sure anyone said sport imparts good character traits Clubman but I think any person with a public profile can be looked up to as a role model, not just sports people. But sports people are generally looked up to as a lot of kids pretend to be that person or want to emulate them, be it in the school playground or park. So for a school teacher to act as stupidly as Mr Galvin regularly does is IMHO a poor reflection of himself as a person and as captain of the team even more so.

 

[MrMan]

cringeworthy aping of english soccer chants, with put-on english accents

Also to be heard at GAA grounds.

crowd violence (some SRFC supporters attempts to have an "inter-city firm" set up, plus random lunatics from other clubs breaking windows accross the North etc.)

I don't think its a scourge on the sport but soccer does have more instances than GAA alright (GAA violence is usually on the pitch).

stadia which barely surpass rural parish GAA stadia

True

national heroes who never set foot in the place before they played for the country, & (Ray Houghton step forward) who go on national talkshows to explain how "as a Scotsman" it was great to score against England - could you not keep up the pretence that you're an Irishman when you put on the jersey

There tends to be a bigger pool of players in an international sport rather than the localised national games. Its hard enought o be accepted in some parish clubs whilst living there not to mind coming from a different country and in fairness to soccer, the granny rule isn't quite as (used/abused) anymore primarily down to the fact that we are now sending so many players to the english game now.

"stars" who wont sign autographs for kids

Depends on the player in any sport, i don't think any particular sport is worse than others.

I too like both GAA and soccer but GAA does tend to get a bit preachy and soccer people also have a tendency to have a go at 'the muckers'.

 

[ClubMan]

• some SRFC supporters attempts to have an "inter-city firm" set up

Far be it from me to defend the enemy but do you actually have any hard evidence for this?

• relentless talking up of dross in an attempt to garner some public interest or relevance

Huh!?

• national heroes who never set foot in the place before they played for the country, & (Ray Houghton step forward) who go on national talkshows to explain how "as a Scotsman" it was great to score against England - could you not keep up the pretence that you're an Irishman when you put on the jersey

Actually my own preference is for the domestic league rather than the national team as it happens.

• "stars" who wont sign autographs for kids

Not sure what you're on about.

and p.s. the ref deserved it (only joking, I admit thats one area we're a fair way to go yet - even the testicle stamping eye gouging mullockers who go egg chasing respect the ref)

But apart from sporadic lynch mobs pursuing officials that GAA is superior to soccer. Super!

 

[Betsy Og]

Far be it from me to defend the enemy but do you actually have any hard evidence for this?

Its common knowledge that SRFC has a hooligan element - is this in question? I can rake the press for few incidents if you really want.

Huh!?

Ever listened to a media interview after a LOI game? Basically they try their best to be complimentary when patently the quality isnt there. Though in fairness I gather its a little better in, say, the last 4 years (yes, I've been to a few matches, been a while though). Always reminds me of the scene in The Snapper when Dessie times the fat kid on the slow bike telling him he's 12 seconds down from the leader, and when the kid is gone he mutters to himself... Saw the boll*cks off himself

Actually my own preference is for the domestic league rather than the national team as it happens.

Fair enough, I was going to enquire as to whether your a masochist but I suppose the national team is no great fun lately either.

Not sure what you're on about.
Did you not read all the press, mainly coming from a Paul McGrath interview, where he was giving out about young Irish soccer players, "stars" in an ironic sense, who couldnt find it in their hearts to sign autographs for the game mascots (so important were these particular players)?

But apart from sporadic lynch mobs pursuing officials that GAA is superior to soccer. Super!

You're referring to one incident there, 2 tops. Even 2 in 124 years is hardly sporadic.

Just on way home from a classic double header in Thurles - no need to argue anymore ...........

 

[Green]

I see Paul Galvin has had his ban cut in half, now three months. Would be still eligible for All Ireland final if Kerry progress.

 

[Ash 22]

Yes he should be happy with that.

 

[Green]

The tide turned for him after the DRA ruling. Then the GAA, as usual, having made a mess of it had to do something for him.

 

[Ash 22]

Well if he has'nt learned a lesson out of all this ---It will be pretty interesting to keep watch.

 

[Mpsox]

The reality is that the GAA messed up the first time by giving him the wrong suspension according to their rules. He appealed and correctly won

Does not disguise the fact that what he did was completly wrong. Not the first time he has been sent off and probably won't be the last either

 

[Betsy Og]

3 months is probably sufficient for the particular offence, the general lack of sympathy re the 6 months ban was because of the "form" of the individual involved.

Might be academic anyway - Monaghan who threw it away last year against Kerry might finish the job this year - think its this week they meet.

 

[Joe1234]

Might be academic anyway - Monaghan who threw it away last year against Kerry might finish the job this year - think its this week they meet.

Lets hope so They meet on Sunday.

 

[Green]

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See another incident following the Munster under 21 Hurling final last night, umpire was jostled and had to be escorted by Gardai off the field.

 

[Betsy Og]

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See another incident following the Munster under 21 Hurling final last night, umpire was jostled and had to be escorted by Gardai off the field.

I'm against crowd intimidation of officials, its quite unacceptable, the umpire in question should be tried before the CAC, CCCC, DRA before being shipped to Singapore for 6 lashes of the bamboo, the f***in ape.

 

[Simeon]

Why do many people assume that sports people are or should be role models for others - especially kids - or that sport necessarily imparts good character traits? Heard a repeat on Newstalk last night about http://www.amazon.com/Foul-Play-Whats-Wrong-Sport/dp/1840468904/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1216979875&sr=8-9 (this book) which might be interesting reading. Many of the professional or serious amateur sports people who I've come across tend to be pretty single minded, self centered, selfish people with shallow personalities and few interests outside of their sporting sphere. Usually of necessity when it comes to serious participation in competitive individual or team sports. The cyclists were the worst! Headcases!

Bravo Clubman! I have yet to meet a sportsman/woman who, lets say, would NOT go outside of the rule remit in the pursuit of glory. That is why you have referees, action replays, sin bins etc. The 'it's not the winning it's the taking part' thing is rubbish. Incidentally, you seem to have started a run on the book ............

 

[Green]

I'm against crowd intimidation of officials, its quite unacceptable, the umpire in question should be tried before the CAC, CCCC, DRA before being shipped to Singapore for 6 lashes of the bamboo, the f***in ape.

I take it your a Clare supporter so? I dont see why the GAA, for championship matches only, don't have the TMO (technical match official) that they have in rugby. Technology would cut out a lot of the was it wasn't it a point/goal arguments that seem to crop up.

 

[The_Banker]

I'm against crowd intimidation of officials, its quite unacceptable, the umpire in question should be tried before the CAC, CCCC, DRA before being shipped to Singapore for 6 lashes of the bamboo, the f***in ape.

I take it you were against his decision?
Whatever he did he didn't deserve to have a baying mob trying to get at him. Nor did the female Garda (back of todays Indo) deserve the punch in the face while escorting him from the ground.

As a Cork GAA fan and a Cork City FC supporter I watch and enjoy both codes. There are positives and negatives in both sports.

The GAA players (I believe) should accept there punishment just like in all other sports and the endless appeals simply makes referees decisions meaningless.
John Mullane of Waterford has a bit of a reputation but he took his punishment like a man a few years back. I am sure players also have little say in whether they will appeal or not as the County Board will push the appeals process to the limit, as what happened with many a Cork GAA player in the past (the County Secretary using his influence to get the player off on a "technicality").

I don't know what your point is towards League of Ireland grounds? Yes, they are poor but maybe if the individual clubs didn't have to pay the players then they could put the money into the ground?
Pairc Ui Chaoimh (nicknamed Pairc Ui Squeeze) in Cork, while a big ground it is severally out of date and there will be someone killed there someday if it isn't sorted out.

 

[The_Banker]

I take it your a Clare supporter so? I dont see why the GAA, for championship matches only, don't have the TMO (technical match official) that they have in rugby. Technology would cut out a lot of the was it wasn't it a point/goal arguments that seem to crop up.

What??? You mean spend money?
That will never happen.

 

[MrMan]

I take it your a Clare supporter so? I dont see why the GAA, for championship matches only, don't have the TMO (technical match official) that they have in rugby. Technology would cut out a lot of the was it wasn't it a point/goal arguments that seem to crop up.

Well I would think that because they are so keen on keeping it an amateur sport, this would be seen as a step towards professionalism. I think rather than introduce new technology they should address the selection process for umpires, maybe use referees like in these positions like in soccer (linesmen).