Over 8 years of non payment and no repossession

ClubMan

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It's a good question but I think that barristers are supposed to put their clients' cases forward as best they can. They don't have to believe in their client's case and they don't have to like the client.

I would have thought that this issue of whether or not a Protective Certificate trumps a Circuit Court order for possession is worth airing in the High Court.

The High Court judge "reluctantly" granted a stay so that it could be appealed to the High Court.

The Barrister is doing his job.

The guy has lived rent-free for 9 years. He probably has plenty of money to pay legal fees.

If we as a Society allow a system where someone can live in their home for years without paying and without being repossessed, don't blame the barristers who advocate on behalf of their clients.

Brendan
Fair points but I would imagine that it taints New Beginning's reputation in the eyes of some people whether that's fair or not.
On the other hand there's probably a significant cohort that thinks that this is *exactly* what organisations such as NB should be doing... :(
 

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We regularly hear complaints about the mortgage interest rates in Ireland and how much higher they are compared to the rest of the EU. However the two recent high profile cases demonstrate the difficult of enforcing mortgage contracts even when a client pays nothing for 9 years. Re-possessions seem like an alien concept to the Courts even in clear cut cases. The concept that borrowers are expected to repay borrowings seems now to be questionable. How much more cost does that impose on compliant mortgage payers if rates are inflated to cover those who are non-compliant?
Brendan was making this very point on the radio yesterday while discussing the McNamara case with Michael Dowling, a mortgage broker AND a PIP!
Michael had very weak comebacks to the points being made
 

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Delboy which show was that?

I love the judge ordering them to make the mortgage payment. I wonder will they, like what would be the point. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.
 

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Delboy which show was that?

I love the judge ordering them to make the mortgage payment. I wonder will they, like what would be the point. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.
Well failing to obey a judge's order can have you jailed for contempt.

Ignoring your responsibilities under a contract seems to be penalty free, but judges look on your obligations to the court in a very different light, maybe.
 

Delboy

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Delboy which show was that?

I love the judge ordering them to make the mortgage payment. I wonder will they, like what would be the point. Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.
The Last Word if I recall correctly. Around 5.30pm
 

Bronte

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Well failing to obey a judge's order can have you jailed for contempt.

Ignoring your responsibilities under a contract seems to be penalty free, but judges look on your obligations to the court in a very different light, maybe.
You think he’ll be jailed if he doesn’t make the repayment. LOL I think that’s highly unlikely. Me, I’ve the popcorn in for the 2nd Sept. because I can’t even begin to imagine what new level of insanity in our courts will prevail.

Maybe one of them will be sick and there will be a further extension. Watch this space.
 
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MrEarl

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This thread should be made a sticky and re-named "How to live in a nice house for a decade, for free"

Simply following the steps taken by Ronan and his good lady has to be the best money saving advice on this website !

I'm furious to see this nonsense continuing through the courts. Ronan should be in prison (cooking for his fellow inmates) :mad:
 
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