I must have missed it as well. You seemed to be saying an independent body should be set up rather than having teachers and unions involved.
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Which is why I wrote,their agreement would have to be given (but perhaps you missed that bit)..
Most grinds are done in "grind schools".where there are the same amount of pupils (some obviously have less students as do some schools) so no ,I dont think that is the answer.
Perhaps the reason people need grinds is because of the amount of subjects they have to study for the leaving cert. Someone in work yesterday was just saying that in Northern Irl where she comes from there is nothing like the number of students having grinds because students specialise in 3 subjects for their A levels. Having to study 7 subjects at leaving cert standard in 2 years is unrealistic, in my view.
Well here it is again;I must have missed it as well. You seemed to be saying an independent body should be set up rather than having teachers and unions involved.
.as unless you have their agreement its a waste of the paper its not written on.[/QUOTE]And therein lies the problem ...nothing will change..we need an independent body to set the school term times..
A principal/manager wouldn't stand a chance.The parents wouldn't stand a chance, the only ones that would have any power in the above agreement are the teachers and the unions.
As there is little or no visible public demand for an extension to the standardised school year perhaps we should accept that the deciding body as currently constituted have got things right ?
After all aren't the parent organisations part of the deciding process ?
Actually, the Labour party are looking at possibly extending the school year to improve literacy levels and also summer literacy camps.
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There is no reference to extending the school year in that article.
There is a reference to giving consideration to extending the primary school day by half an hour for schools who do not meet literacy targets.
The plan to improve levels of literacy by devoting more time to the problem is to be applauded & hopefully this will enable all schools to meet targets.
I would have no problem with the school day and year being regularly reviewed. But when the starting point of the argument is 'why should teachers get such long holidays' the discussion loses any validity.
I would have no problem with the school day and year being regularly reviewed. But when the starting point of the argument is 'why should teachers get such long holidays' the discussion loses any validity.
But why should they? Everyone gets all antsy when the question is asked but nobody gives a proper answer to explain it. It's like when you criticise nurses. As has already being mentioned, we have all these teachers and yet we still pay over 100 euro a day for nearly 5000 exam superintendents and over 6000 examiners. Why are we letting people go on holidays when there is work to be done and then pay them extra to come in and do the work?
Are we honestly saying that every secondary school teacher fits in a standard working year in the 33 weeks that they are required to be in school? Even if they work an extra 20 hours a week on top of the 22 contracted teaching hours, they are working 1386 hours a year. It would only take someone working a 35 hour week, 39.5 weeks to match that. Anyone here getting 12.5 weeks holidays??
Fair play to teachers. It is not their fault but are we honestly saying that we are getting the most out of a valuable resource?
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