London's Burning

Knuttell said:
That makes zero sense??

If this was the North the air would be bouncing with rubber bullets and a few live round for good measure,there is no deterrent for these scumbags,not even the chance of a police charge,if I was a property owner or businessman watching my premises go up in flames I would be pretty annoyed,the only one dislocated from reality is as usual yourself.
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Couldnt agree more. Reporter on Sky News queried today why water cannons are not being used, was told that there wouldnt be water cannons, but compassionate policing, reporter pointed out that water cannons etc used in NI no problem - so why not on streets of London!!
 
firefly -as a compromise to your previous post could one not say

These are scumbags through no fault of their own.

the activities of many of these "poor unfortunates" -whether burning down people's homes and shops, stealing the assets and destroying the livlihoods of small traders,
terrorising and endangering innocent people, throwing rocks at fire-engines etc etc are the activities of scumbags.

Whether it is their fault or not that they have turned into scumbags is another question and you may well be right in suggesting better education and other support.
But at present the fact is they are acting like scumbags.
 
oldnick said:
firefly -as a compromise to your previous post could one not say

These are scumbags through no fault of their own.

the activities of many of these "poor unfortunates" -whether burning down people's homes and shops, stealing the assets and destroying the livlihoods of small traders,
terrorising and endangering innocent people, throwing rocks at fire-engines etc etc are the activities of scumbags.

Whether it is their fault or not that they have turned into scumbags is another question and you may well be right in suggesting better education and other support.
But at present the fact is they are acting like scumbags.
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Hi Oldnick, I was being sarcastic. They ARE scumbags and should be rounded & tagged.
 
oldnick said:
(P.S. Whilst I disagree with your views above I am lost in admiration of your amazingly brilliant best-buy money guides.)
best-buy guides
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Can I ask you to please refrain from being sarcastic and remember don't ever make assumptions based on one's user name for my career is very far removed from the banking world. :rolleyes:
 
These are the children of the labour government - Tony Blair's children you could call them. Children brought up with no sense of responsibility, respect or decency. The entitled generation.
And the UK is the country with the most surveillance in the world. Who exactly are they watching?
The law is there to take taxes from the middle classes. If anyone needs to be woken up to that, then take a look at the UK. The law is certainly not there to contain violent thugs, who will be so encouraged by their successes with this rioting that they will grow up to be model citizens indeed. Children without fear of law or respect for society - UK labours work realised.
 
Firefly said:
What about sending them with the rest of the rubbish that is recycled abroad...maybe they might come back as something?
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My husband suggested they be sent to an open prison in Glasgow and see how long they last....;)
 
England V Netherlands game called off......

I fell asleep watching Sky News last night......really scary stuff.
 
There really is no place in modern society for these type of people

Death penalty is the only answer
 
off topic - firefly /cashier.
Have just had ten minute explanation from daughter on meaning of smileys !

On topic -I dont know if its been reported on news but chatting to North London friends they tell me that many of the local small shopkeepers are staying in their shops with male relatives tonight and will be be "better prepared" than their unlucky fellow traders in areas already attacked.

Many of these shopkeepers are tough fit Turks and Arabs who will defend their homes and shops. They claim that many of their number -mainly Kurds around Tottenham/Seveven Sisters - did fight last night with mobsters and beat them off. How true that is I don't know. But they are getting ready to resist attacks...
 
There was a man interviewed on Sky News about 2 hours ago, some of his shops had been attacked. He was giving an account and kept going on about 'all of them were blacks', to which the reporter was trying to get him to retract this, saying things like "Well, not all of them, there were nationalities of all". He did finally retract with "OK, put it another way, thety weren't all black, i was the white person".

Hopefully this isn't going to become race orientated as well :(
 
flossie said:
There was a man interviewed on Sky News about 2 hours ago, some of his shops had been attacked. He was giving an account and kept going on about 'all of them were blacks', to which the reporter was trying to get him to retract this, saying things like "Well, not all of them, there were nationalities of all". He did finally retract with "OK, put it another way, thety weren't all black, i was the white person".

Hopefully this isn't going to become race orientated as well :(
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While I agree and the photgraphs via the Met and observers show a broad mix of nationalities involved, both polarised wings of politics are making this a race issue.

The left are handwrigning too much about it being a race issue as an excuse and the right are fuelling further hatred in blaming it all on immigration (though the "non-whites" involved are likely to be at least 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants).

This was never about anger or politics.
 
Not that it makes a difference in my opinion but taking a quick glance at the pictures of some of the rioters would suggest that its a very even spread between black and white. Lot of girls seem to be involved as well!

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