How long can the forming of a government take?

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Purple

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Of course, I'm only thinking that when the Dáil gets down to business that if MM relies on the past to rebuff SF, which he has done effectively before, I'm thinking it won't wash with ever increasing numbers of the electorate. Time, and the fact the current SF TDs have had no participation in the IRA (save Dessie Ellis) is bringing forth that detachment.
I think the issue is that the Army Council of the IRA still have a controlling influence over the Shinners.
It's like a business that was set up by the Mafia but conducts itself within the law and has a properly constituted Board but the Board still really take orders from the Don. Some will point out that the business is run properly. Others will point out who is really in charge.
 

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I'm happy to see the new government formed. I think the 3 leaders are people of integrity. I'm also glad to see Eileen Flynn nominated to the Senate. She's a fantastic example for any young person.
 

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I've a big problem with the NI Greens having a vote in this.
I'm happy to see the new government formed.
No problem anymore with NI Greens having a say?

I think the issue is that the Army Council of the IRA still have a controlling influence over the Shinners
If that is the case, we are talking about the present not the past, in which case it would be a pertinent issue.
Perhaps I am doing MM a disservice.
 

Purple

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No problem anymore with NI Greens having a say?
None of their TD's are living in a foreign country and it is their TD's who are in power.

If that is the case, we are talking about the present not the past, in which case it would be a pertinent issue.
Perhaps I am doing MM a disservice.
That is the accusation which is levelled at the Shinners. The fact that they continue to celebrate IRA terrorists is a stain on their character and on the character of every person who supports them, but it isn't the main issue with them holding power.
 

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None of their TD's are living in a foreign country and it is their TD's who are in power.
I know.
They got there, in part, from party members endorsing the PfG, including members from NI having a say in that vote.
I'm glad you appear no longer to see that as a big problem.
 

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I know.
They got there, in part, from party members endorsing the PfG, including members from NI having a say in that vote.
I'm glad you appear no longer to see that as a big problem.
I do see party members (any party) from a foreign country, including any part of the UK, having a say in our political process. I thought I was clear on that.
 

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As for all this garbage about the west not having a minister...
The West’s awake with parochialism! Happens ever cabinet appointment but I think it’s being bred out over time. Transport and communications have greatly improved since 1937. The need for a local minister is not relevant now.
Anyway, there’ll be a reshuffle in 30 months.

IIRC, the 14,500 FF votes were being returned on a constituency-by-constituency basis so that MM would get a feel for the effort put in by the TDs in getting a yes vote. Maybe the likes of deputy leader Dara Calleary hadn’t a resounding yes count?

Sometimes I wonder if people would prefer 26 ministers. One for each county.
 
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