Dublin to erect cameras to catch people crashing red lights

I think people get very frustrated with rules that should be more dynamic given the local situation. We are next to the local school with a 30 kph zone. All great and you need eyes everywhere if passing at school time. However at 11 am on a Sunday it is still the same speed limit but not a child in sight. The speed limit should be 50 kph but if you’re caught doing more than 30 at this time you end up with penalty points. I tend outside school days to do 33-34kph as my car keep beeping at me, should I slow or should I keep going as I am and risk getting caught some day.

Putting in a fixed camera by the school will not make me a safer driver. Just probably one who ends up off the road very quickly.

People need to build the habit of going slow around schools and there are often weekend or out of hours activities.

You won't build that habit with speed limits that constantly change.

I think we should be considering why we can't slow down for 30 secs past a school. It makes no difference to our journey time.
 
I cycled into a car once. Bucked my wheel and had to walk 4 miles. The car was fine. Until this thread I was unaware ‘running’ amber lights was wrong, we always speed up to to avoid the red!
 
If a private enterprise does become involved, I expect to see a similar situation to the one that we currently have with the speed camera vans - they'll be placed where maximum revenue can be earned, rather than at the truely dangerous locations.
The locations and minimum times to be spent in each are specified in the contract. They are paid by the hour, not by the detection. The fines are paid directly to the exchequer.
 
The locations and minimum times to be spent in each are specified in the contract. They are paid by the hour, not by the detection. The fines are paid directly to the exchequer.

In all honestly, I struggle to believe that, based on what I see regularly... and that's not intended to reflect on you, btw, Leo.

Where are you getting that info. please?
 
In all honestly, I struggle to believe that, based on what I see regularly... and that's not intended to reflect on you, btw, Leo.

Where are you getting that info. please?
Its an old wives tales that Go Safe are incentivised to catch more people, that is not the case

Contract is currently up for renewal. Tender requirements and contract documents are available in the Etenders portal for anyone who wants to register and look them up. Like any such contract, it is all subject to FOI if required anyway.

What you are seeing is more cameras being rolled out, including average speed cameras, which are new.
 
In all honestly, I struggle to believe that, based on what I see regularly... and that's not intended to reflect on you, btw, Leo.

Where are you getting that info. please?
I remember threads on it here going back to when they were rolled out initially. It was stated then that the contract would incorporate minimum targets, but wouldn't incentivise detections.

The Gardai first released the breakdown of fees paid to GoSafe back in 2017, the RTE article notes:
The contract makes it clear that there should be no correlation between payments made to the service provider and the number of vehicle detections, or penalty point notices issued or collected.

Figures have been released a number of times since and there has never been an element of payment per detection. The areas and types or roads and times mandated are revised each time the contract is up for renewal.
 
Fantastic ingenuity.

But these systems have been around for a very long time. It's Ireland that seems to have no interest in policing it.
 
Yeah, the technology itself is nothing new, the challenge is in building something vandal resistant that gathers evidential quality records that won't be easily thrown out in court. That means integration into the traffic light control systems and most are tied into induction loops embedded in the ground after the stop line to eliminate false positives for stationary vehicles.
 
In all honestly, I struggle to believe that, based on what I see regularly... and that's not intended to reflect on you, btw, Leo.

Where are you getting that info. please?
The people in the van literally set it up and then sit back with a coffee and a newspaper (or similar)

They have zero input into the issuance of tickets.

A video file is sent to Thurles garda station where FPN motoring offences are managed. A Garda there goes through all instances of vehicles exceeding the limit and decides whether to issue a FPN.
 
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