EasilyAmused
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Yes, if we were 4000Km from our nearest neighbour we could probably do that as well.NZ is in no rush anyway. The longer they postpone vaccinations the greater choice there will be and more vaccines available at a lower price (presumably).
Auckland has just left a three day circuit breaker lockdown. Three days!!!
AFAIK they haven’t had a national lockdown since the winter of 2020 (their winter).
That footage of Jacibda Arden at a barbecue, passing ‘round ketchup, people sharing salad scoops, no masks, no social distancing... it’s like something from the movies.
New Zealand having a competent government also helps.Yes, if we were 4000Km from our nearest neighbour we could probably do that as well.
They are a reflection of a competent electorate.New Zealand having a competent government also helps.
Our constitution........and while its wonderful to have a written one that protects us citizens it does cause issues when passing legislation.But new Zealand obviously has a different legal and political system. They were able to implement enforced quarantine manned by the army straight away. For even minor changes to our system requires legislation to be passed by the dail. Why is that, is it our constitutional system or is it our legal system. How many government decisions have been over ruled by judges because it is "unconstitutional "
... by a priest....it was written in a different era
Are the residents of New Zealand being vaccinated at the moment?
They’re scheduled to begin administering jabs on Saturday, starting with border workers.
An no, in fairness to Dev he resisted considerable pressure form the Clergy to have Roman Christianity made the State religion. Considering the time it was written it is a remarkably secular document.... by a priest.
Ireland and New Zealand have very similar legal and political systems and New Zealand respects the civil rights of its citizens as much as Ireland. In Ireland the problem seems to lie with political culture (the corrosive influence of vested interests), low quality of political personnel (lots of primary school teachers, small town solicitors, etc), a greedy, unreformed legal system out of control and a largely cynical, self-serving public sector and civil service.But new Zealand obviously has a different legal and political system. They were able to implement enforced quarantine manned by the army straight away. For even minor changes to our system requires legislation to be passed by the dail. Why is that, is it our constitutional system or is it our legal system. How many government decisions have been over ruled by judges because it is "unconstitutional "
And an uninformed electorate which is easily led by opportunistic populist opposition politicians.Ireland and New Zealand have very similar legal and political systems and New Zealand respects the civil rights of its citizens as much as Ireland. In Ireland the problem seems to lie with political culture (the corrosive influence of vested interests), low quality of political personnel (lots of primary school teachers, small town solicitors, etc), a greedy, unreformed legal system out of control and a largely cynical, self-serving public sector and civil service.
It's how the constitution is interpreted that is the problem, even if it is rewritten it can still be interpreted by the judiciary in different ways. The American constitution is much older than the irish one yet never hear any issues with being "unconstitutional ". Trumps signature was final in many instances, even the British system does not get bogged down in legal issues, alot of brexit related stuff was pushed through despite the legality arguments. Here the government seems to be hamstrung by legalities all the timeOur constitution........and while its wonderful to have a written one that protects us citizens it does cause issues when passing legislation.
Personally I feel its time for a review afterall it was written in a different era. But thats for another thread
The Americans and British may have Civil Servants who are competent enough to write legislation. The competence levels across the top levels of the Civil Service seems to be very lacking, despite very high pay rates.It's how the constitution is interpreted that is the problem, even if it is rewritten it can still be interpreted by the judiciary in different ways. The American constitution is much older than the irish one yet never hear any issues with being "unconstitutional ". Trumps signature was final in many instances, even the British system does not get bogged down in legal issues, alot of brexit related stuff was pushed through despite the legality arguments. Here the government seems to be hamstrung by legalities all the time
They are still in the Brexit propaganda mode so I for one will hold off congratulating them for the moment.New Zealand and Ireland are very different. We should be looking at our neighbours 200km up the road that are well on their way to being vacinnated.
No matter how bad the handling of COVID has been in the UK, BoJo has gotten the vaccine rollout right thus far.
The Boris Brexit media put a very very shiny gloss on everything.New Zealand and Ireland are very different. We should be looking at our neighbours 200km up the road that are well on their way to being vacinnated.
No matter how bad the handling of COVID has been in the UK, BoJo has gotten the vaccine rollout right thus far.
They are still in the Brexit propaganda mode so I for one will hold off congratulating them for the moment.
The Boris Brexit media put a very very shiny gloss on everything.
Yes they had a 4 week headstart, but possibly they are moving too quickly. Will the proverbial hit the fan when they start thinking about the second jab weeks later than is recommended.
You appear to miss the rather important matter of having vaccines to rollout.I'm basing my opinion on facts rather than media gloss or propaganda. My parents live in the North are 65-70 with no underlying health conditions and got the vaccine 2.5 weeks ago and have their date for the second. If I compare to my wife's older parents (70+) with underlying health conditions, they still don't know when they will get the vaccine.
The UK had a four week head start because the EU took longer to approve based on the same data. In the end the approval was a formality. My parents described the vaccine administration as a well oiled process. In Ireland we've only just announced or mass vaccine centres.
So I think the evidence suggests that we are doing a poor job of rollout.
The UK approved the AstraZeneca vaaccine for conditional use on the 30th of December.The UK had a four week head start because the EU took longer to approve based on the same data.
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