Current public sentiment towards the housing market?

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I do. Most of my friends have as well. Then again, a shocking amount of us also own property!

Sorry, should have said - people in their 20's without an SSIA and property! The majority of people who could afford an SSIA five years ago already own property by now.
 


i used to agree completely (over the past few months), but there have been indications just over the past few days, that maybe the Property market has managed to pull the nose of the plane up. Take this in todays Indo for example. We spoke about this here just last week, wondering would this happen, i.e. the builders control the wobble by dropping output:


remember this is only the 12 months to JUNE, and not Q3, up until Sept. I can't imagine there has been many developers applying for permission in the past 3 months on very expensive land when they might be hit with an over-supplied market in 12 months when the houses are built, and they can't be sold. So they adopt a 'wait n see' approach. This 37%+ drop in approvals could prove very important
 

The 'gasp' was metaphorical!! I disagree that the SSIA payout won't have an effect on the market. A couple who pay the full amount will have over 40K to invest. My daughter has an SSIA and she's 24. Every one of her friends have SSIAs, some for the maximum and others for less. Each and every one of them intend to put it towards a deposit.
 
Can somebody stick up a few prices of Semi-D's in London, in comparable areas to the ~€1m property Dublin house above.


I don't think Dublin and London are comparable. Dublin and Bristol are a better comparison similar in size, Bristol isn't your typical 'post-industrial' city as can be found in most parts of the UK. Another comparable UK city might be Edinburgh.


http://www.rightmove.co.uk
 

Absolutely agree, and anyone who says that asking price drops are insignificant hasn't a clue what they're talking about. Trying to sell a house in the current market and dropping your asking price is a real pain for vendors.
 
I must have the wrong friends only 1 has an SSIA and even then she's only been able to pay into it properly since she got a 'real' job last September. I'm 23 BTW.
 
I must have the wrong friends only 1 has an SSIA and even then she's only been able to pay into it properly since she got a 'real' job last September. I'm 23 BTW.

That's a pity, their parents should have been looking out for their financial interests. An SSIA payment was as little as 12.54...pocket money. It's then up to the child to up payments out of part time work etc. while attending college.
 
I'm wary about the impact of SSIA's on the market, especially when the level of debt in the country is so high. But I suppose anythings possible in a bubble market, it does beg the question what happens when the SSIA money has gone?
 
I'm wary about the impact of SSIA's on the market, especially when the level of debt in the country is so high. But I suppose anythings possible in a bubble market, it does beg the question what happens when the SSIA money has gone?

SSIA money plus all the reports stating that house prices are dropping will lead the inexperienced to believe that they are getting a bargain IMO. In fact, they will probably still be paying a somewhat inflated price for quite a while yet. I understand that's it's difficult for young people, having spent 5 years saving, with a view to buying a property, to then put that thought on hold!! This is even more true when you view the history of the property market to date. If the budget brings some relief with regard to stamp duty, it will add fuel to this fire IMO.
 
Original AP 800k

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Can't find it in the cache but you can see the original amount of 800k furthur down the page. These guys are really sloppy and are probably charging 5-7.5K for the pleasure.
 
Funny this talk about SSIA because if you bought a house now rather than 4/5 months ago you would have 'earned' your SSIA money with the savings that you can now get.
 
I don't think the SSIA's are that big a deal to the property. How many people would have bought their house maybe 2 years ago and borrowed money off their parents for example on the nod that once the SSIA matured they would repay them?

This is just one example, but I think the SSIA effect has been priced in gradually. A bit like the first time buyers grant of €3000, you would always see the price being advertised "Nett of Grant"

The same way as tax relief properties are often overpriced in the knowledge that the investor is getting a tax break.
 
I know what I will be doing with my SSIA.

I am due about €15K, and my house has dropped €16K (and dropping) since April when next door sold.

Great....thats what I get after five years of hard saving. Down €1k.
 

Its terrible to think that if someone takes the plunge and buys now after saving hard for 5 years that there SSIA could be wiped out within a year. Lets hope that the EA's give them sound professional advice.....
 
I know what I will be doing with my SSIA.

I am due about €15K, and my house has dropped €16K (and dropping) since April when next door sold.

Great....thats what I get after five years of hard saving. Down €1k.

Presumably you'll still make a profit???
 
I know what I will be doing with my SSIA.

I am due about €15K, and my house has dropped €16K (and dropping) since April when next door sold.

Great....thats what I get after five years of hard saving. Down €1k.

Yes but if you sell soon you'll save a hell of alot more. (in earnings)

How much of a hit can you take ?
 

Not sure that ending up with 300,000 vacant properties (see the census, McWilliams etc.) counts as "pulling the nose up".
 
I don't really get this "drop the price by 10k now it's a bargain" thing...

If your house has doubled / triped / quadroupled in value, why is it so hard to drop the price by 10k or 50k or 100k?

If no one wants to even consider your house at its dropped by 10k bargain price, then that means your house is no where near worth that now.

If houses can double in price in 24 months, then they can easily half in price in 24 months...
 


Agreed. However, if you search in the nicer areas of London (try postcodes SW6, N1, W4, SW11 from £500K upwards) you'll be amazed how much cheaper it is to buy there. Bristol, Edinburgh etc. are cheaper still.
 
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