Current public sentiment towards the housing market?

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Billings may not be Dublin but the growth in inventory and the refusal to take it into account is similar to the disavowal of Dublin EAs. The fact the feeling of immunity to a crash is felt there too is interesting, we all seem too incapable to think about harder times, and are all schooled in an amazing denial mechanism. I feel this may be generational. There is something linking risk-taking and fear of outside forces having a more powerful role than we would like. I am not sure what it is, but it doesn't seem to be local. We may be more susceptible though.
 

If this is true (and I actually think it may be), then we really are showing signs that we are right at the start of a collapse.

Everybody hold tight now........
 

Builder is building those Clare houses with a decent fit out for circa 300,000. That means a buyer is paying about 400,000 for the site. Now there will always be planning granted in places like Clare - what else are people going to do but build houses - councillors know this but can be a bit stricter at the moment as the boom means they do not need to worry about the jobs aspect.

IMO we are way past worrying about planning in this country beyond a bunch of really top class sites i.e. the cliffs of moher will not be built on.

The agricultural value of each house site - max 5,000. Hence there is along way up to 400,000.
 
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London’s Docklands was the destination for a lot of green Irish bubble money over the past few years. The market however, seems to be struggling; due to insipid rental yields, voids and a poor resale’s market. Irish exposure to high risk bubble markets across the globe may have an impact back home.

The Times.




http://property.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,14049-2378182,00.html
 
"ECB policymakers have reason to feel smug. The economy's surprising strength is forcing financial markets to reconsider how far the rate rises might go, and not even a welcome drop in oil prices and inflation is likely to break their stride."



"For central bankers, it says that the economy is strong enough to absorb further steps toward monetary policy normalisation," said Eric Chaney, European economist for Morgan Stanley. After the year-end, the outlook is less clear. If strong growth continues - as ECB staff currently predict - rates of at least 4 per cent by the end of 2007 should not be ruled out, one senior ECB central banker told Reuters recently."

From today's Irish Times.
 
wow.. Its just one "good news" story after another this morning ...

Does anyone have any way of actually knowing how many houses/apartments were actually sold in the first month of the autumn season...

... careful what ye wish for lads ...
 
wow.. Its just one "good news" story after another this morning ...

Does anyone have any way of actually knowing how many houses/apartments were actually sold in the first month of the autumn season...

... careful what ye wish for lads ...

I wouldn't wish a speculative asset bubble on any nation.
 
From an indo article about LA. It can't happen here though, as the worst that can happen us is a soft landing, thats what the estate agent said and they know everything.

Just a few months ago, "open houses" in LA were like orgies. Real estate brokers would lay out tables of finger-food, while throngs of potential buyers would swoon over the stainless steel bathroom fixtures, fantasise about the remodelling potential (we can fit a hot tub in the back!) and, most importantly, jostle to outbid each other.
These days the ahi tuna canapes are gone, the brokers look ill and the only buyers are professional vultures, offering 30pc below listing.
 




The reason that the ERSI are calling for a brake on new migrants is the probability that there wont be work for them here. They mention the risk of the bursting US housing bubble but make no mention whatsoever of the higher risk Irish market? Pretty worthless analysis.
 
Would the last one out of the Property Investment thread please turn off the lights?
 
The Property Investment thread next door is quiet today isn't it?

How will the irish crash affect property in say Poland. Had thought about buying there but wonder if the money dries up here will that affect the prices abroad. Are we a mini-America to some places in eastern europe.
 
How will the irish crash affect property in say Poland. Had thought about buying there but wonder if the money dries up here will that affect the prices abroad. Are we a mini-America to some places in eastern europe.

It depends. What was your original exit strategy? Were you hoping to simply sell on to another Paddy at some point in the future or were you buying in an area of strong local employment and growth?

Any market which is based on the premise of simply selling on to a greater fool doesn't really get much time from me.
 
How will the irish crash affect property in say Poland. Had thought about buying there but wonder if the money dries up here will that affect the prices abroad. Are we a mini-America to some places in eastern europe.

We can't have a crash, only a soft landing and 5% house price growth, I wish ye would start reading the estate agents predictions, they know everything!
 
Seriously, remember that interest rates are rising in Poland too.
 

I do business over in Poland so i had my research done well and prices have gone up accordingly. You'd have been mad to buy in ireland in '96 aswell so one always has to work on pure figures which I do.

However in the end i was too exposed to mainland europe so didnt go for it.

But back to my original point. Will a Irish Crash (currently happening in slow motion) affect prices in eastern europe and to a lesser extent spain.
 
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