TheBigShort
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those desired ends being to sell it later to someone who places a higher value on it,
See, its this level of discussion that jman0war fpalb and others with the links attached that provide me with confidence that all this is beyond an elaborate scam.
Its clear they are intelligent and have insights to the whole crypto space, including the problems it has and is facing, and are not merely cheerleaders for a new fangled gadget.
On the other hand, the detractors of bitcoin etc seem to be founded on the notion that if they dont understand it, therefore it is worthless.
The transaction role of cryptocurrency will probably be taken oiver by some other crypto
It may well be a bubble, certainly looks like one. That doesnt mean it hasnt value, that it doesnt have longevity.
You have obviously never been closely involved in a bubble before
Bitcoin will fall to zero if as I suspect that is what it is worth.
Either bitcoin offers some new service of value or it does not. If it does either it becomes sucessfully established or it does not
It seems to me that bitcoin offers nothing of value. Not a means of exchange, not a store of value. I started a thread "Does anyone actually use bitcoin to pay for things" the answer is a clear, No. The price is too volatile for a store of value.
If it does come to be recognised as offering something of value, will it succeed in becoming established (think Betamax). I think not. The forking thing will undermine its reputation, central banks will kill it, there are too many competitors.
What a superb post.
Reading the various posts has been fascinating. It seems to me that by its very nature, the Blockchain underpin is based on the theory that the relationship of crypto- currencies is in inverse proportion to a put-call on the gold v Yen trade. Even allowing for the 25% drop in value today, the high degree of correlation between the fiat currencies and those seeking alpha (romeo?) leads one to conclude that a lower level of attribution should be anticipated for Bitcoin futures.
I fully accept that whether viewed as a time-weighted instrument or one of pure speculation, the prognosis for bitcoin must be viewed through the lense of a narrowing inverse yield curve. Looking at the current 10year bond yield versus the projected inflation numbers, it is indeed a cause of concern.
In a market seeking rotation to rotation, the current valuation metric must be a catalyst for reviewing the Catalonian Debt market. And when you add Brexit, any sharp re-pricing in Equities can only move the dial upwards. So whether Bitcoin or Ethrium, based on the Subjective Theory of Value, the mining numbers as recently published by RTZ suggest that Satoshi has definitely gone underground.
What goes up must come down"
Bitcoin has had fairly regular price drops of 25 and 30% before.
Any particular reason to believe this time is different?
People can now sell it short which was not really possible on a serious exchange up until this week.
You certainly have opened your mind. You are probably the only person on the planet who thinks bitcoin is a store of value.I agree that as a means of exchange it has not been successful , yet. But it still has that potential.
As a store of value, I disagree.
in the interests of integrity you really shouldn't state things that are completely incorrect as fact.
BitMex allowed traders to short since a long time.Hi BK
If I have stated something which is factually incorrect, please correct it and provide a link to it.
I learn from my mistakes.
Brendan
Hi BK
If I have stated something which is factually incorrect, please correct it and provide a link to it.
I learn from my mistakes.
Brendan
You certainly have opened your mind. You are probably the only person on the planet who thinks bitcoin is a store of value.
The transaction role of cryptocurrency will probably be taken over by some other crypto not subject to such volatility.
Bitcoin is worthless.
At some stage it will fall to zero.
People can now sell it short which was not really possible on a serious exchange up until this week.
Sorry - I refer to the ability to short, Bitfinex and Kraken amongst others have offered margin trading BTC/USD pairs for some time. Kraken does BTC/EUR too.
So I have said nothing wrong. For the first time, people can short Bitcoin on a serious exchange. Even with the CME, there are concerns that a winning bet on shorting Bitcoin would be met. So there is no point in taking the risk on these other Bitcoin based exchanges.
Since writing that first post, I see that IG Index is doing CFDs and I will look into them.
Brendan
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