Are you saying that you've seen cars driving along in a relatively clear inside lane being stopped because they didn't move out to pass a slower moving car in the middle lane?
I'm no talking about a car that undertakes (enters the inside land only to pass a car in the outside lane).
Overtake only on the right, unless traffic is travelling in slow moving queues and the traffic queue on your right is travelling more slowly than you are. If you intend to move from a slower lane to a faster lane, adjust your speed first.
Purple, I think you are missing the point here. Overtaking a car on the left is illegal unless you are driving in slow moving traffic. It doesn't matter if you entered Lane 1 or were already in Lane 1 to overtake on the left.
No, you are missing the point; if you are in the inside lane and there is a car in the middle lane going more slowly than you then you are not overtaking it, you are simply driving within the speed limit in your lane. In order to overtake you must perform a manoeuvre; you must change lanes.
Therefore if you entered the inside lane from the middle lane in order to pass the slower moving car in that middle lane you are undertaking and therefore breaking the rules of the road. If you were in the inside lane all along then you didn't perform a manoeuvre and so didn't undertake.
Purple, under the rules of the road you are overtaking on the left which is illegal. I would advise you to contact the RSA if you don't believe me
I must respectfully beg to differ; you've missed the point again and again.No, you are missing the point; ...
Uncle Gaybo's buke (on page 45 no less) states "you must normally overtake on the right" unless... If you were in the inside lane all along then you didn't perform a manoeuvre and so didn't undertake.
If you're in the inside lane and you can pass them without breaking the speed limit then C) relax in the inside land and pass them out.
two lanes of traffic are moving slowly and the inside lane is moving faster than the outside lane
Are you saying that you've seen cars driving along in a relatively clear inside lane being stopped because they didn't move out to pass a slower moving car in the middle lane?
The don't say anything about it.
To repeat; overtaking is passing a car in your lane by moving into a different lane. If you are in the correct lane, on the left, then you should not move to the right, across two lanes, because someone else is in the wrong lane. That's dangerous.
Yes. The relevant link is the one I gave. FYI: good-driving-practice/overtaking.htmlAm I missing something? ....
The one I listed above, scroll down a little on that page; it's as clear as crystal, no possible ambiguity.... what provision of the ROTR are you breaking? as stated by michaelm, purple and others earlier.
Nope. You're just making it up as you go along now.There you go.
I know my assumption below has since proven incorrect but nevertheless:-What is the appropriate approach to someone [EDIT: a single car, not a lane of them] driving at 90kph in the middle lane of the Naas road.
A) move from the left hand lane, into the middle lane, then the outside lane, overtake and move back into the middle lane and then the inside lane.
B) drive in the middle lane yourself and flash the light and blow the horn like they do in France to get them to move over.
C) relax in the inside land and pass them out...
Assuming we have two adult, law-abiding, responsible and fairly competent drivers, the following is the ideal scenario:
Simples. All done calmly in a controlled fashion and all within the speed limit.
- Driver "B", realising he is gaining on Driver "A", indicates right and moves into Lane 2 when it is safe to do so.
- Driver "A", observing her mirrors, sees a car behind her in Lane 2, indicates left and moves to Lane 1 when it is safe to do so
- Driver "B" passes Driver "A" safely on her right [EDIT: Exactly as detailed on p. 45 ROTR] and when it is safe to do so, indicates left and moves to Lane 1.
Of course if either or both of the drivers is not law-abiding, responsible and competent, anything is possible, including some of the illegal and dangerous manoeuvres described in the thread already. ....
I agree, passing out while driving is to be avoided at all costs.
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Yes. The relevant link is the one I gave. FYI: good-driving-practice/overtaking.html
The one I listed above, scroll down a little on that page; it's as clear as crystal, no possible ambiguity.
Am I missing something? Purple said that the rules of the road don't say anything about overtaking and gives a link to the extract from the rules and lo and behold there is a whole section on overtaking.
Nope. You're just making it up as you go along now.
Two lanes moving slowly was never mentioned in the OP which said very clearly -
Yes, that exact scenario. Two cars crusing in middle lane, another car remains in lane one and undertakes them. The second of the cars cruising in the middle lane turns out to be an unmarked garda car, as soon as the car in lane 1 is past, they put on the siren/lights and pull them in. The car that was cruising in front in the middle lane continues in that lane! I really don't know why they do nothing about it, even the traffic corps are frequently on that road and do nothing. I saw a similar scenario another time, but wasn't as close, so can't be sure there wasn't something else going on there.
I drive that road every day, undertaking, crusing in the middle and even outside lane is common. But then, almost every time I use a roundabout, someone fails to indicate or use the correct lane, the majority of red lights, someone jumps...
Against all odds it would seem.I'm kinda surprised I survived to my current age with all the apparent nut-jobs that seem to travel our roads, waiting to pounce on innocent, law-abiding (even if a bit doddery) drivers.
Now that would be an accident waiting to happen. Get a budgerigar insteadI got a few unexpected quid into the kitty lately and I was thinking of buying a motorcycling bicycle of some sort.
Bangs head against wall at serious lack of knowledge of rules of the road
Right here, in your own typing --->...Show me where it says you have to move over two lanes to drive past a car in the middle lane that's travelling slowly. ... .
simply put and very specific, leaving out, ifs ands or buts, special cases or exceptions, thems the rules. The only confusion that might arise is where someone genuinely doesn't know left from right.... Overtake only on the right ... .
Right here --->...
Show me where it says you have to move over two lanes to drive past a car in the middle lane that's travelling slowly. .
It follows naturally from the simple rule.... Overtake only on the right ...
and remember your right is the side opposite to which you carry your sword or the arm opposite the one which you offer in support and protection when escorting a lady.... Overtake only on the right ...
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