You mean all the do gooders who voted c. 60:40 in favour of changing the constitution to allow for marriage equality?
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The do gooders who pushed Same Sex Marriage through to become a law, which replaced a Civil Partnership. It discriminates against people who are not in a sexual relationship but are living together.
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Well we could have had both, I don't see why / how the same sex marriage lobby necessarily adversely impacts that.
Of course, civil partnership itself was inherently discriminatory as it was only available to people of the same sex.
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What on earth are you on about?
torblednam
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Uncles marrying their nephews up your direction, purportedly...
T McGibney
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Uncles marrying their nephews up your direction, purportedly...
That's precisely why I asked him what on earth was he on about.
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It’s a pity this isn’t available to both same- and opposite-sex couples in Ireland.
To give most of the legal protections of marriage without the symbolism.
torblednam
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They weren't uncle and nephew though, were they? It seemed like you were referring to a different instance...
What "symbolism"? It's basically a binding legal contract. Practically the opposite of symbolic.
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No churches, being dressed in white, changing your surname, etc.
A French PACS avoids all this and is just an appointment with a bureaucrat in a town hall.
To be fair, those are all wedding things not legal marriage things. And being done by less and less people these days.
Those are personal choices and not mandated by the marriage contract.
The pacs doesn't give the same protection as the marriage particularly in terms of inheritance/death. The partner inherits only if there is a will. And even if there's a will, they can only inherit a limited amount if there are children while a married spouse would inherit half of the assets. The amount available for the pacsed partner depends on the number of children. They don't have access to the same "widow" pension rights either.
As for the symbolism, church weddings have no legal value in France, the only legal weddings also take place in the Town Hall.
Perhaps he should as the tax level can be as high as 60 per cent.Is Alan Shatter planning on tackling French inheritance taxes next or something?
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At least you are a religious type!
I suspect that there are plenty of people who are married and living together but are not in a sexual relationship.
Those in glass houses etc etc @torblednam and @Gordon GekkoUncles marrying their nephews up your direction, purportedly...
Whatever you are alleging happens in 1 area I am sure happens in other areas including your own and certainly in more populated areas such as Dublin.
Where is this uncle/nephew rubbish coming from. Such a union would be illegal.
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