Adults and computer gaming

I love this quote:

Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX and listening to repetitive music...

:)

(Marcus Brigstocke)
 
RMCF said:
I hear whats being said about HEavy Rain, and how some have compared it to a great TV show or film, but if thats the case, why not watch a great TV show or film instead?
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Because its a game?
 
Ah, you might be getting them free through rapidshare, but you are also getting a nice little surprise with them.

Q. Why do you think people strip these games down, rejig them, and post up to download for free?

A. So they can add their own little gems also, spyware, viruses, trojans etc.

Now the problem is, you might never know you have them because these are not your usual detectable viruses. They are highly sophistacted in their design that they are blended in with the prgram files of the game.

Rather than risking the security of my PC i pay for the games online and download them directly to my laptop.

www.direct2drive.com/
 
Rather than risking the security of my PC i pay for the games online and download them directly to my laptop.
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I'm not sure if the games on rapidshare are freeware or not.

Anyway, if they're not, I'd rather pay for stuff than steal it. People have worked hard to produce the product, and if I am going to enjoy the fruits of their labour, I'd like to pay them for it.

Thieves make stuff more expensive for decent people as well.
 
The software could be freeware.


So they'll rob stuff for you but if you come from a respectable postcode they'll actually sell it to you at a mark up?
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I don't understand this at all.
 
Complainer said:
I'm sure many shoplifters could make the same arguement.
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I suppose the subtle difference is that you havent denied them the chance to sell to willing buyers. Now if you send it to all your mates then you are doing more damage, but if you werent going to personally buy anyway then no-one has lost out.

To the best of my knowledge any of that old arcade stuff on MAME isnt sold on the market.

Also, I wouldnt pay for knock-off stuff because, as the dvd intro tells you, you're funding organised crime - & I do believe that.
 
umop3p!sdn said:
The software could be freeware.
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Doesn't look like it - http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/1305/mystery-case-files-ravenhearst/index.html
"Full unlimited version
Only $6.99!"


Vanilla said:
Bloody hell, if it is he's in big trouble!
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Wouldn't like to be in the Vanilla house for dinner this evening.

Betsy Og said:
I suppose the subtle difference is that you havent denied them the chance to sell to willing buyers. Now if you send it to all your mates then you are doing more damage, but if you werent going to personally buy anyway then no-one has lost out.
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This is twisting the situation to suit your conscience. Convincing yourself that "you wouldn't have bought it anyway" has nothing to do with the ethical issue. If I shoplift a nice expensive ring from Weirs on the grounds that I couldn't afford it anyway, it is still theft. If you couldn't get it for free, then maybe you actually would have bought it anyway.

So is it ethical and moral to tap into my neighbour's broadband or cable TV?
 
Now if you send it to all your mates then you are doing more damage, but if you werent going to personally buy anyway then no-one has lost out.
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I need some work done around the house. When will you be available to do this? I will not, of course, be paying you.
 
truthseeker said:
I would play more games if they made more games I liked.

I like a game where I get to wander around different areas, look at things, look for things, collect things for use in other areas, solve puzzles and do a small bit of fighting/killing/avoiding the baddies.
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The broken sword series for the PC is great, they're kind of role play games where you have to figure out a mystery and collect clues to help you, and because they're out years they're cheap as chips......although chips are expensive enough these days!
 
umop3p!sdn said:
I'm not sure if the games on rapidshare are freeware or not.
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Rapidshare is a file hosting company. They do not provide freeware games. Unless you are getting the rapidshare links from a reputable website that gives freeware games you are more than likely donloading an illegal copy upladed by somebody.

There are plenty of sites where freeware games are available but i have never seen them using rapidshare to host their files.

All you have to do is google 'rapidshare games' and all of the sites that come up are for illegal copies of games.
 
umop3p!sdn said:
I need some work done around the house. When will you be available to do this? I will not, of course, be paying you.
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Ah but in that situation you would be requiring my time & presence. Whereas if I ran an art exhibition and was charging admission, but you happen to be setting up next door and while you werent an art buff you decided to sneek in before I opened to have a look around then you wouldnt have cost me anything, reduced my capacity for earning and indeed I wouldnt have been aware of your opportunism.

Now if you started hailing the waiting queue for my exhibitoin, showing them the way in for free I might be a bit annoyed.
 
Complainer said:
So is it ethical and moral to tap into my neighbour's broadband or cable TV?
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Well I suppose it wouldnt be the worst crime in the world. For example I share a bin with my neighbour, we split the cost 50/50 - are we scamming the bin company??, no we're doing the Reduce/Reuse/Recycle thing. If a guy down the road dropped in the odd bag, and assuming we were under the weight limit (so it didnt cost me anything) then I guess I could live with that.

I'm only having the debate for the craic - is there such a thing as "victimless crime"??, probably not, but you cant sweat the small stuff. Here we are stoically accepting €22 Bn into Anglo courtesy of Seanie Fitz but we can generate more moral outrage about the odd downloaded game.
 
Ah but in that situation you would be requiring my time & presence.
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I write software. This takes my time and presence. It takes years of training and keeping up with technology as well.
Why do you think I should do this for you, for free?

Anyone that is using the product for free certainly is costing me money. If everyone decides to steal the software, then I'll have to get a job doing something else.

I just don't understand why people can't see that this is nothing short of theft.
Do you steal books and sneak into cinemas without paying as well?
 
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