Paul O Mahoney
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Edit Double post.I'm not sure whether it is people taking up smoking or existing smokers paying more.
As to the health data, I can only find reports detailing smoking habits, but nothing on how governmental strategies have impacted the health service.
The benefits of giving up/not starting are widely commended, so then surely there must be some evidence of savings, otherwise what's it all for?
Oh I agree and even when I had nothing to do after getting out of hospital I decided to analyse cancer in Ireland and see where we were in various areas, cancer is a serious disease but the lack of data, that improved post 1995 with the setting up of the Cancer register but it's so understaffed theres only so much they can do, of course all data prior gone.I just don't get that. It is one of my pet irritants; not just in the HSE.
Analysis, costing, planning, innovation, etc., depend on appropriate reliable data.
"I'd say" or "In my opinion" of itself, is worthless unless it is proved.
Probably the only way to get a figure. Increasing prices is one thing but actual impact of price rises also needs to be understood.Interpolation of the table above would signify that a lot less people are using tobacco today than 16 years ago.
So do I.I find it incredible that they don't use data to create budgets, or strategically plan its maddening and isn't going to change
I'm afraid my 4 are as useless as an astray on a bike.So do I.
Lobby our local representatives? Sometimes it works. I have had some success over the years.
How did you conclude that they don't use data to create budgets or strategically plan?I find it incredible that they don't use data to create budgets, or strategically plan its maddening and isn't going to change
The shambolic state of the Health Service, despite very high levels of funding would lead me to believe that there is a lack of strategic planning.How did you conclude that they don't use data to create budgets or strategically plan?
They don't and if they do the data is wrong, simple example when I was sick I was treated in 4 hospitals, in Tallaght I had my bloods done every morning, I had to go to StJames to have my stem cells harvested and on arrival bloods were taken again. Each hospital set up a new unique hospital number for me and I was classified as a patient in each. If the HSE had no other patients at that time I know they would have reported 4 patients, ie me in 4 separate hospitals, if they used that data for anything they would be overstating by a factor of 4.How did you conclude that they don't use data to create budgets or strategically plan?
That must be a large part of the reason the HSE states that they have a quarter of a million patients on waiting lists. They probably have a quarter of that.They don't and if they do the data is wrong, simple example when I was sick I was treated in 4 hospitals, in Tallaght I had my bloods done every morning, I had to go to StJames to have my stem cells harvested and on arrival bloods were taken again. Each hospital set up a new unique hospital number for me and I was classified as a patient in each. If the HSE had no other patients at that time I know they would have reported 4 patients, ie me in 4 separate hospitals, if they used that data for anything they would be overstating by a factor of 4.
The mother in law died in July and since then we have received 9 letters from the HSE advising her of up coming appointments in 3 hospitals.
I could go on, but the evidence of how the HSE creates/uses data is shambolic.
I actually had an opportunity to ask someone in the HSE that exact question about and while she weren't talking directly she said as much, people are referred to multiple locations and counted. The INMO take these numbers too.That must be a large part of the reason the HSE states that they have a quarter of a million patients on waiting lists. They probably have a quarter of that.
I see Fintan O'Toole cynically using sick children to score cheap political points in the Irish Times again. His complete lack of integrity is literally stomach turning.
The INMO know the numbers are incorrect but use them anyway because they care more about leveraging more money from the State than the sick and vulnerable.I actually had an opportunity to ask someone in the HSE that exact question about and while she weren't talking directly she said as much, people are referred to multiple locations and counted. The INMO take these numbers too.
Honestly, this says nothing about how they do or don't plan strategically. It's a fair bet that the HSE folks who add up patient numbers are only too well aware that the same person will be registered in multiple hospitals, and they don't simply add up the number of patients at each hospital to come up with a total number of patients.They don't and if they do the data is wrong, simple example when I was sick I was treated in 4 hospitals, in Tallaght I had my bloods done every morning, I had to go to StJames to have my stem cells harvested and on arrival bloods were taken again. Each hospital set up a new unique hospital number for me and I was classified as a patient in each. If the HSE had no other patients at that time I know they would have reported 4 patients, ie me in 4 separate hospitals, if they used that data for anything they would be overstating by a factor of 4.
The mother in law died in July and since then we have received 9 letters from the HSE advising her of up coming appointments in 3 hospitals.
I could go on, but the evidence of how the HSE creates/uses data is shambolic.
I'll ask how do they eliminate that double counting, because I know for a fact their systems aren't aligned and some systems are from the early 90s.Honestly, this says nothing about how they do or don't plan strategically. It's a fair bet that the HSE folks who add up patient numbers are only too well aware that the same person will be registered in multiple hospitals, and they don't simply add up the number of patients at each hospital to come up with a total number of patients.
The only thing this experience tells you is that we don't have an integrated patient management system running across all hospitals.
Here's their strategic plan btw: https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/qid/strategic-plan-2019-2024/
That's the crux of it. If they can eliminate the double counting then there's an integrated patient identification system somewhere. If Joseph Heller was still alive he's be suing for plagiarism.I'll ask how do they eliminate that double counting, because I know for a fact their systems aren't aligned and some systems are from the early 90s.
Who's Joseph Heller? , and I'm not jokingThat's the crux of it. If they can eliminate the double counting then there's an integrated patient identification system somewhere. If Joseph Heller was still alive he's be suing for plagiarism.
Who's Joseph Heller? , and I'm not joking
Catch 22Who's Joseph Heller? , and I'm not joking
Really?It's a fair bet that the HSE folks who add up patient numbers are only too well aware that the same person will be registered in multiple hospitals, and they don't simply add up the number of patients at each hospital to come up with a total number of patients.