Don't let Patricia King catch you saying that !!He has a beard. Isnt this the most important qualfication for a left wing union official?
That was funny, no paycuts or reductions in numbers, but he can still reduce the paybill!!!! is the programme repeated on line anywhere, i missed alot of it?
I don't think his education, or lack of it, is the issue. There are plenty of smart people who left school early but learned their trade/business hands on.
Exactly..Exactly.
Bottom line is, as a minimum 'qualification' for the job this guy should be reasonably intelligent, articulate and well informed and he fails badly in all these areas IMO.
I don't think his education, or lack of it, is the issue. There are plenty of smart people who left school early but learned their trade/business hands on.
Anyone know what O'Connor's house is like? I hope for his sake it's a 2 up 2 down in the Liberties or something.
Surely to jaysus even he wouldn't be so stupid as to make a comment like that if he had a 'fancy' house himself too.
Surely...
I can understand the antipathy towards Jack O'Connor but you have to remember that's he's representing the interests of those who pay his salary.
The idea that he should be required to speak rationally and act in the best interests of the State is not really consistent with his job spec. The social partnership concept has been shown up to the white elephant it (nearly) always was. Union leaders ultimately serve their members, not the state.
Lest we forget this. Problem is he should be thinking of the country and it's greater good. In the current climate, if he has any i.q, he must realise he has responsibilities to the country. If someone has a role to be played they have responsibilities to do what is right. Maybe it's just his own salary he is thinking of saving and believes he has to be seen to be saying this nonsense to protect it. He is no economist thats for sure.
To lead in a responsible manner?What do you expect from an elected representative of his union.
Agreed,Bertie comes to mind.He is not very articulate and goes in for the rambling time wasting blather so beloved of our elected political representatives.
I dont think there are relevant,but what does it say about someone in this position that hasnt bothered to get himself some further education..There are a lot of mature students who got up off their backsides and did something whilst holding down a full time job.And maybe somebody should ask about the politicians before they decide to elect them.His educational qualifications are
completely irrelevant...nobody asks our politicians this question.
Do you honestly think Jack O connor would allow anyone else to be in control??The real question people should be asking is why RTE didn`t put someone like joe higgins ther to defend workers rights.
The point that jack o connor was trying to say in his round about way ...was that public sector workers wouldn`t take a pay cut but would be amenable to tax increases.Of course this wouldn`t work because the tax increases would effect the private sector also.
Would it be so funny if the shoe was on the other foot and Pat Kenny responded by getting personal with him?I though that jacko connors answer to pat kennys question about trophy homes was very funny and Pat kenny shouldn`t have been so offended...after all it is common knowledge that he has a fine house![/
Pat Kenny said what a lot of us are thinking ie; Im not taking this crap,he was right to say this.And bear in mind that Jack O connors home could also be viewed as a " Trophy " home!
great picture of him in today's Irish Times, front page....very Stalinesque!!!
great picture of him in today's Irish Times, front page....very Stalinesque!!!
And he wants to introduce a higher band of tax??
50% of income earners don't pay any tax? I am shocked at that I have to say
http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/1103/exchequer.html
You know, I'm starting to get a bit disappointed with this thread. There's so much rope in terms of what O'Connor is saying to hang him on that we don't need to resort to the personal attacks.
He's just doing his job, he has a mandate from his members and their subscriptions pay for him to represent their views at a national level. Are the views out of touch and unreasonable? Well to me yes. Are the solutions "back of fag packet pub economics"? Again: yes. However, what's the point in questioning his education, etc?
I know the above quote seems a pretty minor observation, but I'm minded of the 80s when The Sun wanted to run a picture of Scargill that caught him in a moment with his hand raised. It of course looked like a Nazi Salute. However, the printers refused to run the picture and fair play to them the paper ran without a front page picture.
The thing is, the more those opposed to these measures and actions attack the individuals presenting them, the more you cement their support and the action.
Stick to the flaws in their plan and stick to the urgent need to introduce measures, not defer them indefinitely.
Though speaking of personal attacks, I still the the Kenny house quip was funny.[/quote
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I found the personal attacks on Mr. O'Connor to be offensive and would far prefer to see reasoned argument rather than snide remarks regarding Mr. O'Connor's perceived lack of education.
As a committed trade unionist myself I have to admit that I was shocked at the portrayal of Mr. O'Connor's job roles in SIPTU as " non jobs "
To quote a phrase in common usage over the last couple of days this seems to be a case of playing the man not the ball.
However having said that such personal attacks are very much the exception rather than the rule on AAM.