Poppies/How to commemorate war dead?

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Having had a great grandfather and grandfather both of whom served as officers in WW 1 and WW 2 as many Irishmen did, I find sad that we do recognise their contribution here in the Republic.
 
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The recognition levels are going up though. As well as Islandbridge there's the Island of Ireland Peace Park in Messines, Flanders, opened in 1998 by the President of Ireland, Queen Elizabeth II of the UK and the King of Belgium.

My grandfather was in the Royal Field Artillery (WWI).
 
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Having had a great grandfather and grandfather both of whom served as officers in WW 1 and WW 2 as many Irishmen did, I find sad that we do recognise their contribution here in the Republic.

I agree with you. I know a few people, old men now but really decent men, who volunteered and served in WW2, like 50,000 other people from south of the border in that era. They never talk about their experiences. Many of their comrades gave their tomorrows so we can have our todays, and live in a Europe free from Nazism.
 
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I agree with you. I know a few people, old men now but really decent men, who volunteered and served in WW2, like 50,000 other people from south of the border in that era. They never talk about their experiences. Many of their comrades gave their tomorrows so we can have our todays, and live in a Europe free from Nazism.
Agreed, I'd love to celebrate their sacrifice, but I have absolutely no interest in remembering British soldiers sent to kill Zulus etc, and who terrorised my grandparents during the war of Independence.
 
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What is the best way to commemorate Irish Soldiers who faught and died in the United States Armed Services in WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, up to and including current conflicts?

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There's official Government recognition of the sacrifice of Irishmen and woman by their presence at the commemoration in Islandbridge and the memorial service in St Patrick's. If you personally want to commemorate their sacrifice, why not attend either?

Personally I would never wear a poppy nor do i like seeing people on the streets of Dublin wearing them, but it's a free world so let them off.

There's never going to be massive public commemoration of Irishmen fighting in WW1 or WW2 in the south because quite simply their deaths didn't achieve independence and no amount of revisionist history can change that......
 
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Their deaths didn't achieve independence for Ireland so there won't be massive public recognition - what an insular view.

Was it not more important that they helped defeat the march of Nazism?
 
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Their deaths didn't achieve independence for Ireland so there won't be massive public recognition - what an insular view.

Was it not more important that they helped defeat the march of Nazism?


And as above their deaths and contribution are recognised by the State. The orginal post and subsequent ones were about getting their hands on poppies and how to commemorate the occassion. The occassion is commemorated and poppies are available to buy.

Does Sweden have much public commemoration of WW1 and WW2?Anyone know?
 
Their deaths didn't achieve independence for Ireland so there won't be massive public recognition - what an insular view.

Was it not more important that they helped defeat the march of Nazism?
WWI was not about nazism. It was about money. vincenzo wrote a piece last sunday about it, worth a [broken link removed].
 
WWI was not about nazism. It was about money. vincenzo wrote a piece last sunday about it, worth a [broken link removed].

I actually cant believe this thread - are some of you serious??

The poppy commemorates those who have fought in all british wars (not just WW1 and WW2) - therefore you are commemorating the Para that were in Derry in 1972 etc. Some of you need to educate yourselves on what the poppy stands for before coming out what that kind of stuff!!!
 
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Agreed, I'd love to celebrate their sacrifice, but I have absolutely no interest in remembering British soldiers sent to kill Zulus etc, and who terrorised my grandparents during the war of Independence.

well said - while we have all been making money recently we also seem to have forgotten our history!
 
"How to commemorate war dead",

Support your community, do at least one volunteer job, raise your children to respect the society you live in, support education, live a full, decent life, always use your vote...that's how you will best remember those who died.

And please let's not forget that if Hitler had won WWII, we would be living in a very different world right now...
 
The poppy commemorates those who have fought in all british wars (not just WW1 and WW2) - therefore you are commemorating the Para that were in Derry in 1972 etc. Some of you need to educate yourselves on what the poppy stands for before coming out what that kind of stuff!!!
The poppy started as a symbol of remembrance after WW1, due to the poppies flowering around the battle fields.
 
I actually cant believe this thread - are some of you serious??

The poppy commemorates those who have fought in all british wars (not just WW1 and WW2) - therefore you are commemorating the Para that were in Derry in 1972 etc. Some of you need to educate yourselves on what the poppy stands for before coming out what that kind of stuff!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day

If you were referring to my post about the origins of WWI, the post was not meant to detract from the overall meaning of rememberance day and the use of the poppy worldwide as a symbol for the last 80 years for those who died in ALL wars (not just british).

As posted above, the poppy was initially used as a rememberance for WWI. I felt it important to note WWI (and consequently WWII) stemmed from money and power needs rather then Nazi idealogies to create an Arian race.
 
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