Why are some women rude?

You should try working in my place, it is a call centre with different nationalities. And the majority of them will shut the door in your face they never check is there someone behind them even though you are right beside them on the stairs. The Italians are so nice they are so mannerly the always hold the door open for you and will go out of their way to help you with a work problem.

I find it strange that the majority of people out there do not acknowledge you when you let them out at a junction and in car parks etc. I think it has alot to do with people rushing about forget simple manners.
 
joke my mother loves telling

Question: Why did the woman cross the road ?

Answer (from female): Why shouldn't she .....


Answer (from male): Dunno, whatever
 
I've noticed more and more that people have a distinct lack of awareness of others and their surroundings. Not thanking someone for holding the door open is one example. Others are:

Stopping at the top of an escalator
Standing in the middle of a narrow pavement chatting
Sitting in the outside lane of a dual carriageway/motorway
Pushing in

I think there is a fine line between rudeness and obliviousness.

I've noticed it more as I get older, so much so that I'm almost obsessive about ensuring my actions don't effect others.
 
> find letting go the door when they're half way through can be effective. >There's nothing like getting a face full of door for a wake up call.

But then those who wait until they're fully through to say thanks get punished for your snap judgement of them. Also, someone who has just learned they have 6 months to live, and are a little preoccupied with that, might end up having their misery compounded by a thick lip.

I think not thanking someone might be slightly lower on the social crime scale than assaulting someone with a door.

Personally I'll hold a door open for whoever, it doesn't bother me one whit if they thank me or not. Bad manners are their own punishment, it's a small sign of what the person is like in the rest of their life. If people go around being rude all the time then they get less help from customer service reps, their friends and family are less likely to go out of their way to help them. The perception of them in their work place or social settings is likely to be lower.

If I get up to give someone a seat on a bus and they treat it like it was their sacred right to have it, or if they are in some way rude, I don't get upset or annoyed. I smile to myself knowing that they are probably getting out of life what they put into it, and so am I.

If someone is usually polite, but they're having a bad day, then they will in generally be treated well by others. If someone is generally rude then they'll be treated worse by others. It doesn't bother me how they behaved in the one incident with me. I don't know if it was typical or not, but I do know that in the long run they'll get what they deserve, good or bad.

Just to be clear, I don't believe in any spiritual bull like Karma etc. I just think people in general will respond to you in much the same way that you treat them.

-Rd
 
daltonr said:
> find letting go the door when they're half way through can be effective. >There's nothing like getting a face full of door for a wake up call.

But then those who wait until they're fully through to say thanks get punished for your snap judgement of them. Also, someone who has just learned they have 6 months to live, and are a little preoccupied with that, might end up having their misery compounded by a thick lip.

I think not thanking someone might be slightly lower on the social crime scale than assaulting someone with a door.

Personally I'll hold a door open for whoever, it doesn't bother me one whit if they thank me or not. Bad manners are their own punishment, it's a small sign of what the person is like in the rest of their life. If people go around being rude all the time then they get less help from customer service reps, their friends and family are less likely to go out of their way to help them. The perception of them in their work place or social settings is likely to be lower.

If I get up to give someone a seat on a bus and they treat it like it was their sacred right to have it, or if they are in some way rude, I don't get upset or annoyed. I smile to myself knowing that they are probably getting out of life what they put into it, and so am I.

If someone is usually polite, but they're having a bad day, then they will in generally be treated well by others. If someone is generally rude then they'll be treated worse by others. It doesn't bother me how they behaved in the one incident with me. I don't know if it was typical or not, but I do know that in the long run they'll get what they deserve, good or bad.

-Rd
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Or to paraphrase; It's all about Karma man so chill with the negative vibes.... :cool:
 
Glenbhoy said:
So, the only reason you hold the door open is to hear that little phrase "thank you"?? Why do you care if the recipient of your act of kindness appreciates it or not?
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I object to being ignored as if I don't exist.
 
Glenbhoy said:
So, the only reason you hold the door open is to hear that little phrase "thank you"?? Why do you care if the recipient of your act of kindness appreciates it or not?
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the reason ? because i was taught to be mannerly and have respect for others !!!!!
not like the little runts who roam the streets these days, who don't seem to care about anybody or anything anymore... why ? because their parents are ignorant and dont care either, and prob don't hold the door for anyone either..;)
 
I was in Aldi in Maynooth the other day and while standing in a checkout queue there came shouts from an adjacent till from a very irate and rude young woman to the checkout operator who is a non national guy who has worked there for a while and is a very polite and pleasant young man.

There obviously had been a mistake made on the scanning and he had to call a "manager" to delete the mistake but what should have been a transaction between customer and employee was entertainment ? for all in the queues.

She was a disgrace and as she attacked the Aldi employee "verbally " she got no support from anyone.

Maybe it's the mad hair colour that effects the moods.
 
LIVERLIPS said:
You should try working in my place, it is a call centre with different nationalities. And the majority of them will shut the door in your face they never check is there someone behind them even though you are right beside them on the stairs. The Italians are so nice they are so mannerly the always hold the door open for you and will go out of their way to help you with a work problem.
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Interesting! There may well be a cultural or ethnic dimension to it. In Madrid recently, Mrs P got seriously exercised about the lack of manners displayed by the natives including an inability to say thanks. I suggested that she not take it too seriously, that it might just be their way but on one ocasion she came face to face with a young lady in a situation where one of them had to move to the side. Mrs P stopped, obviously still brooding about Spanish manners, motioned the YL to one side whereupon she grabbed Mrs P's shoulder and bodily moved her aside and walked on. Flabbergasted was the word!
 
pat127 said:
Interesting! There may well be a cultural or ethnic dimension to it. In Madrid recently, Mrs P got seriously exercised about the lack of manners displayed by the natives including an inability to say thanks.
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Not that I want to get personal about spanish people, but living in spain, one of the first things I noticed is that in general people on the street have NO awareness of other people around them. They'll walk straight into you with no attempt to move around you as though you're not there (even though I would have been veering away from them so as not to hit into them).
From Pat127's experience maybe its because they drive on the other side of the road there, so even when walking, their natural reaction is to veer right, whereas our natural reaction is to veer left, so you end up in a dance where you're both veering to the same side.
 
ragazza said:
From Pat127's experience maybe its because they drive on the other side of the road there, so even when walking, their natural reaction is to veer right, whereas our natural reaction is to veer left, so you end up in a dance where you're both veering to the same side.
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That could be it all right. Mrs P could have veered right as she had room on that side but to give way the Senorita would have had to move to her left. Maybe there's an unwritten convention that we weren't aware of. I wonder what the convention on Grafton St is?:)
 
The convention on Grafton Street these days is to donder from side to side with as many big bags as possible taking up as much room as possible and pay no attention to people trying to get from the top to the bottom in a straight line. Doesn't matter about the nationality, it's the shopper mentality.

Around this time of year I give up trying to go down Grafton Street and head down Dawson Street instead. Even with the detour it is faster and easier than the constant dodging and weaving required to get from the top to the bottom of Grafton Street.
 
My pet hate is queue skipping. And in the height of Christmas shopping it is happening more and more frequently. It annoys me that some people think the can jump to the top of a long and obvious queue because their time is so much more precious than everybody elses. While I don't want to generalise, from my observations it is usually women in their fifties who are the biggest culprits. Why is that? I have rarely seen a man queue skipping. Now I have no objection to letting the elderly go ahead of me but these women are not elderly and they don't even have the grace to look apologetic. I would not mind if they had the manners to say they were in a big hurry and would anybody mind if they went ahead. But they stand there like they have a God given right and the annoyed stares of people behind them does not phase them in the slightest! Agggghhhhhh!!
 
try being in a bus Q, those little old ladies ! ... jaysus they know how to bash their way through a Q...
 
On the continental attitude to moving out of peoples way, a recent trip to Venice opened my eyes as to the difference.

Four days were spent side stepping for stylish, sunglass wearing completely oblivious Italians. Even where there is plenty of room for two or three people in their narrow 'calle' they just barge down the middle. Any attempts to create some space for yourself are usually met with an elblow or lithe shoulder.

My boyfriend who had spent the previous month in Italy before meeting me there had to keep reminding me not to side step for these paople all the time, as it was not appreciated and they had no right to expect right of way all the time. I just had that 'sorry, sorry, sorry' Irish attitude...........

We are not that bad here in Eire ;)
 
When I was living in Italy many people commented on the fact that I say "sorry" too much. In the office I sneezed and said "sorry" (automatically) and my colleague said "why are you sorry?". Its just culturally different, they dont consider it rude if you brush by them on the street and dont side step.
 
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