What is the absolute final "drop dead" date for paying this LPT?
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Then they'll be liable for interest - that's how I read it anyway, since they haven't elected that payment method in a return.
So the method of payment is made up by Revenue, and they plucked the 21st March for SDA out of thin air?
On another point, I hadn't realised until you said it that those who want to pay by credit card next year can do it if they a) fill out the option now and b) go to the post office later and pay it that way.
Wizard, what does RTFQ mean?
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RTFQ means "Read The Effing Question" - something students are repeatedly told in prepping for exams...
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Some authority to make Regulations for the collection is delegated to Revenue, and it appears that they picked the date of 27th March as the SDA date.
I'm baffled at the fact that the thing is such a big deal, because this method exists, and means that no-one need necessarily pay a dime until next December if they don't want to.
Well I must say I'm baffled too about all the fuss, but it wasn't until your post that I knew about the option for everybody to pay next year. I at least have an excuse, revenue did not send me the letter, so I didn't know the options, they apparently, they think, sent the letter to the property address.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/lpt/lpt-obligations-2014.html
The above is very clear on what one has to do, (it's the first time I've seen that page)
and equally clear is the fact that even with a credit card or debit card, you don't have to pay anything in 2013
Commencing in January, you can make regular payments by cash/debit card through An Post; by cash and credit/debit card through Payzone outlets (depends on the individual outlet) or by cash through Omnivend. These methods will incur transaction handling charges by service providers.
On or before 1 January 2014, you can opt to pay in full by cash/debit card through An Post; by cash and credit/debit card through Payzone outlets (depends on the individual outlet) or by cash through Omnivend. These methods will incur transaction handling charges by service providers
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/lpt/lpt-obligations-2014.html
The above is very clear on what one has to do, (it's the first time I've seen that page)
and equally clear is the fact that even with a credit card or debit card, you don't have to pay anything in 2013
Commencing in January, you can make regular payments by cash/debit card through An Post; by cash and credit/debit card through Payzone outlets (depends on the individual outlet) or by cash through Omnivend. These methods will incur transaction handling charges by service providers.
On or before 1 January 2014, you can opt to pay in full by cash/debit card through An Post; by cash and credit/debit card through Payzone outlets (depends on the individual outlet) or by cash through Omnivend. These methods will incur transaction handling charges by service providers
If that's the case, further proof of the utter idiocy of the whole setup.
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Sorry I misunderstood what you were asking, thought you meant a payment after 1/1/2014.
They can't be liable for interest if they've paid before the due date.
I'm was on the revenue site trying to pay by SDA, but just to see what the options were I hit debit/credit card and get this message:
Note that the payment will be charged to your card today.
I do not see an option to pay in An Post next year with this?
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Cash/service provider payment option?
No it was not an option. I'm trying to remember, there were 4 options I think, credit/debit card, SDA, monthly something (salary I think) and the fourth I cannot now remember, would it be direct debit.
If it had the button you mentioned I would have checked that to see what it said.
Has anyone actually managed to go with the credit card option that is not now, but later I wonder? Was it an option last year?
I'm just getting around to this now and spent an hour or so on revenue.ie trying to figure it out. Last year I got no letter but paid by single debit authority (I sent them a letter with the necessary details) - received no receipt or acknowledgment. No letter received this time either (despite the confident assertion to the contrary by Revenue - see below). In some places the site implies that I would be able to select online by using pps number only but actually couldn't find a way to do that.............any know if there is such a way? Can't afford the time or money to be holding on the line for ages - is there a form I can print off?
The site says this Those who paid their 2013 LPT in one lump sum (i.e. by single debit authority, debit/credit card, cheque/postal order/cash) or by regular cash payments received a letter (no I didn't). Letters included a Property ID, PIN and confirmed the amount due for 2014. Letters to owners of multiple properties confirmed the total amount of LPT due for 2014 on all of their properties.
The site says this Those who paid their 2013 LPT in one lump sum (i.e. by single debit authority, debit/credit card, cheque/postal order/cash) or by regular cash payments received a letter (no I didn't). Letters included a Property ID, PIN and confirmed the amount due for 2014. Letters to owners of multiple properties confirmed the total amount of LPT due for 2014 on all of their properties.
You absolutely have to have a property ID and PIn number, the only way to get this is to ring the 'first' helpdesk, who cannot help you, but they can transfer you to the 'second' helpdesk, called Head Office and they can give you the info over the phone.
Apparently the Chairman of revenue stated the wait time as 6 minutes and she was completely incorrect.
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Well I don't know, because I'm not a property owner. But the Revenue website says, in the section where it lists the options:
"Commencing in January, you can make regular payments by cash/debit card through An Post; by cash and credit/debit card through Payzone outlets (depends on the individual outlet) or by cash through Omnivend. These methods will incur transaction handling charges by service providers."
So i may have been wrong in suggesting you could avoid paying until December 2014 with that method, since it says "commencing in January" and "regular payments"...
Yes, from the Revenue FAQs, it does appear that with the cash payments options, you either pay in one lump by 1 January 2014 or else you select a frequency (weekly/monthly) which it is then your responsibility to keep track of and up to date.
7. When should I start making my phased payments through a Payment Service Provider?
You should start making your payments through a Payment Service Provider from 1 Janurary 2014. You should ensure that you pay your total LPT due for 2014 by the end of 2014. The payments should be equal amounts and should be paid according to the payment frequency that you selected. See also Question 8.
8. How will I know how much to pay each week/month?
You should ensure that you take note of the total amount of LPT due for 2014 and the frequency of payment that you chose. You should calculate the amount of LPT that you will need to pay for each phased payment by dividing the total amount of LPT due by the number of weeks/months left from the date you start your payments to the end of the year.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/lpt/payment-options/cash-payments.html
Sahd, who posted above, posted in the other PT thread that this method of payment was not available to owners of multiple properties. So maybe that's why I didn't see this option button.