Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out.I think the main point is they are given an option. If the parents dont want your children to take part its entirely up to them.
Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out...
So it is an 'opt-out' process. Why not go for 'opt-in', and let those who choose to participate do so.
Check out the enrollment policy of any parish school. Priority is given to children of that religion. If the school is over-subscribed, thouse who are not baptised won't get it. This kind of religious discrimination is enshrined in law.
The choice of multi-denominational is not a simple one. There is none in my area. Choosing this school (which of course has a waiting list) would mean a 4-mile car commute each day, instead of a 1-mile bike/walk commute. It is not a simple option.
Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out.
Making it an opt-in process would remove some of these doubts by removing the expectation of participation.
Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out.
Making it an opt-in process would remove some of these doubts by removing the expectation of participation.
Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out..
They can expect to be treated like all the other children, and to suggest otherwise is unfair.
1. I think the main point is that is entirely the parents choice. Opt-in or Opt-out, either way they have a choice.
2. Its the "Parish School", of course priority should be given. If you dont want your children to go to a catholic school you dont send them there.
3. You had the Baptism out of convenience but you want nothing to do with the Religion itself. Plenty of people travel a lot further to school.
How on earth do you think they're going to be treated? Do you really think all their teachers up the line to sixth class are going to hold it against them because their parents said they didn't want them making their Communion? If the teachers aren't religious themselves, they won't care. If they are religious they will be glad that you showed enough respect for the sacrament not to take part in it meaninglessly.
Rubbish. To suspect that they will be persecuted in some way is a ridiculous statement to make. Is that what you teach them; just join in, in case you stand out?
Thats weird because its Sacrament of Marriage yet i go to weddings
Not once were the words sacrament of marriage used during the cermony at my own "wedding". Also the civil part is done after all the religious cermony is finished and tyhe majority of the paperwork is filled in before the weddings.
christening is a term used within my family as well and i think its rather sad to look down on other posters because they don't use the same words and terms as you.
... It would be different if it were a private school, but state run schools should not discriminate on the basis of religion and they do.
While technically accurate, this doesn't give the full story. The 'financial assistance' is of course the full salaries of all the teachers plus the capitation fee per pupil, i.e. the lion's share of the running costs. And most capital improvement projects (new schools/wings/classrooms) are covered by the state too. So he who pays the piper doesn't call the tune.Primary schools in Ireland are private schools. Most of them are church-owned (Catholic and various other churches). They receive financial assistance from the state, a right given under Article 44 of the Constitution.
Primary schools in Ireland are private schools. Most of them are church-owned (Catholic and various other churches). They receive financial assistance from the state, a right given under Article 44 of the Constitution.
The types of schools available
The Irish primary education sector consists of state-funded primary schools, special schools and private primary schools. State-funded primary schools used to be known as national schools and you may still hear this term being used. State-funded schools include religious schools, multi-denominational schools and Gaelscoileanna, which are schools that teach the curriculum through the Irish language. You can view a list of State-funded primary schools in Ireland on the Department of Education's website here.
Religion in Irish schools
Most Irish primary schools are under the management of one denomination or another and the majority of these are Roman Catholic. There is, however, a growing choice of schools of other denominations and of multi-denominational schools.
Schools that cater for a single religion may give priority to children of that religion but they will also admit children with other religious beliefs, or none. Children do not have to attend religion classes and you may choose to withdraw your child from such classes if you wish.
Regardless of religion, all primary schools operate under similar rules. The main differences relate to the appointment of the principal of the school and the choice of teacher representatives on the Board of Management.
Some interesting comments in there.
1) Of course the teachers will be religious themselves. They wouldn't get the job if they weren't, because the school can legally discriminate on grounds of religion again. Such discrimination would of course be illegal for other employers.
Many parents (me included) will be left wondering if there any other implications for how their children will be treated for their remaining five years in that school if they opt-out.
Making it an opt-in process would remove some of these doubts by removing the expectation of participation.
Bronte;865937There is also the pressure the child exerts on the parents said:Have you any basis for this? As far as I'm aware the Church does not want people taking part in sacraments that they don't believe in. Obviously the kids will want to be the same as the other kids but this happens with everything and is a natural part of growing up. In fairness, if you send your children to a Catholic school (for convenience or whatever reason) and the vast majority of the people there are happy to have religion taught, Holy Communion an integral part of the school year for 8 yr olds etc you can't demand that it all be changed to suit a small handful of people.
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