Update 2.5 years later: Problems with tenants next door: Determination Order frm PRTB

[fullerand]

Re: Problems with tenants next door

It's great you came back to us with an update. But I fear a tenant who has waited 2.5 years will probably ignore the determination order. Is the PRTB going to pay for going to court? This could take a long time yet. Could you tell us more about the how the determination order came about, did the landlord not have to be involved etc.

I'm afraid of that too. I think the PRTB used to take non-compliant parties directly to court - however, in the Irish Times a few weeks ago (and in a cover letter which arrived with the Determination Order), they stated that "due to the increasing volume of cases coming before the PRTB, the board may not be in a position to or may in certain circumstances deem it not cost effective to prosecute the non compliant party".

So the PRTB probably wont take them to court - in that case it will be up to the landlord to do so (Circuit Court).

Fun stuff - and as you suggest could take a lot of time.

 

[Bronte]

Re: Problems with tenants next door

I'm afraid of that too. I think the PRTB used to take non-compliant parties directly to court - however, in the Irish Times a few weeks ago (and in a cover letter which arrived with the Determination Order), they stated that "due to the increasing volume of cases coming before the PRTB, the board may not be in a position to or may in certain circumstances deem it not cost effective to prosecute the non compliant party".

So the PRTB probably wont take them to court - in that case it will be up to the landlord to do so (Circuit Court).

Fun stuff - and as you suggest could take a lot of time.

You said the determination order was against the tenant. Why would a landlord take a tenant to court if the tenant is paying the rent? I had heard the PRTB were not taking all cases to court. Determination order is not worth much than it seems. It may be worth your while replying to the PRTB letter asking them to clarify the 'not be in a position' and 'not cost effective to prosecute' phrases.

 

[LLDLY]

Re: Problems with tenants next door

Feel I have to post as it seems to me that bypassing a neighbourly chat in favour of immediate landlord interference seems an extreme initial reaction and I would say totally the wrong way to go. There's every chance you could reach a compromise with your neighbours if you approached them in a friendly manner first off.

I completely disagree, it seems quite obvious that these people wouldn't listen. Then they had stones thrown at them and being spat at just sums up the mentality of these people. I just hope that the landlord doesn't put bad tenants in again........................another 2 half years of hassle!

We had similar problems but decided to rent our house and buy a detached. We managed to get them evicted with help from neighbours who also complained to landlord.

Good luck for the future

 

[LennyBriscoe]

Re: Problems with tenants next door

I'm afraid of that too. I think the PRTB used to take non-compliant parties directly to court - however, in the Irish Times a few weeks ago (and in a cover letter which arrived with the Determination Order), they stated that "due to the increasing volume of cases coming before the PRTB, the board may not be in a position to or may in certain circumstances deem it not cost effective to prosecute the non compliant party".

So the PRTB probably wont take them to court - in that case it will be up to the landlord to do so (Circuit Court).

Fun stuff - and as you suggest could take a lot of time.

That to me is adequate proof that An Bord Snip should take action and remove the PRTB from existence! A lame duck.