This isn't entirely correct. Being an official Union with a negotiating license is really just for show. Ultimately a Union represents a number of people. If that number is large enough, or their importance large enough, then employers, and Labour Courts, listen to them.You cannot form another union as you would not get a negotiating licence...well technically i suppose you could but as no one would negotiate with you it wouldn't be much of a point.
I'm not surprised that you could not get information, why should unions give information to non members?
Becuase you can base your opinion on output and results.
So you don't know what the head of your union is paid?
Do you seriously think David Begg or Jack O'Connor would work for the average inductrial wage?
Because these guys are trying to close the entire Country down and I want to know everything about them. I am not a member but their actions impact on me.
I'll have to quote myself but when Union leaders ignore their own rules and the democratic wishes of their own members something isn't quite right.No, I didn't say that nor was I saying that payment was the only relevant issue. I was reacting to the incorrect inference that union members were "sheep" and "ignorant" being fleeced (to continue the agricultural theme) but a fat cat leadership who they slavishly followed.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0323/partnership.html
A spokesperson for IMPACT said that the vote did not necessarily mean that IMPACT members would not take part in Monday's strike.
The union's executive will meet tomorrow to examine the rule requiring the two-thirds majority to see if the executive has any discretion to approve the action.
So much for democracy then. Why have a vote atall if that's what you're going to do?
No you can't. How can you know if something or someone is value for money if you don't know the figure being paid to them is ???
fat cat leadership
No, I didn't say that nor was I saying that payment was the only relevant issue. I was reacting to the incorrect inference that union members were "sheep" and "ignorant" being fleeced (to continue the agricultural theme) but a fat cat leadership who they slavishly followed.
Why not!!! These are democratic left wing socialists, walk the walk and all that.
I would say union members who are losing their jobs and lower paid workers taking pay cuts are definitely not happy with the money these guys are on. Does the vote today tell you anything?? How would someone go about airing dissatisfaction with their leadership???
So how much does your union leader get paid?
Commensurate with the activities and responsibilities of their job.
Ok then
Do you realise what you sound like? You're talking about Union membership. Workers rights, solidarity, representation - do these things mean nothing to you?Reality is that I know the figure because I pay my subs. You have no right to know as you are not a member. As they say on American Express Card "membership has its priviligies!.
Reality is that I know the figure because I pay my subs. You have no right to know as you are not a member. As they say on American Express Card "membership has its priviligies!.
Do you realise what you sound like? You're talking about Union membership. Workers rights, solidarity, representation - do these things mean nothing to you?
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