Unemployment but we need work visas??
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ClubMan said:
sorry now, but I refute your allegation that i making this up on heresay. I am supplying you with facts from the mouths of the people who receive the benefits.
Approx. 200 people are paid welfare from this location. Approx. 50 people make cheerful reference to the fact that welfare is happy days for them and they don't care about who knows it.
Also, lets be realistic here. Allowing for 5% of the population to not be included when you say you have full employment allows certain people to take advantage of the system.
Do I feel like these people owe something back to society, yes I certainly do. many years ago they brought in the summer scheme for students who had to work on various community type schemes to claim the dole for the summer.
An extension of that scheme would be something I feel that should be looked at.
I never alleged that you made this up - I simply said that it is anecdotal evidence which it obviously is.legend99 said:
Indirectly via a third party it must be said.
Those "facts" seem a bit vague and the numbers involved not necessarily a representative statistical sample from which wider valid conclusions can be drawn.
The DSFA do have schemes and objectives for facilitating unemployed people to get back into the workforce. In particular see chapter 3 of the most recent annual report available on their website.
right, i'm too busy in work to keep up this argument...but is there any obligation on people to do anything in return for not working and claiming benefit.
It goes back to the old question.....should you receieve unemployment benefit for life or should there be a maximum length of time?
It goes back to the old question.....should you receieve unemployment benefit for life or should there be a maximum length of time?
Ham Slicer
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Interesting program on last night - Mother knows best.
Single mother with one child living in 3 bedroom house in Tallaght somewhere.
Smoking 40 cigs a day.
Driving Opel Tigra
28 inch flat screen TV in sitting room.
Absolute lazy sod with no interest in working - being supported by SW.
Should this not be case for SW to investigate?
Single mother with one child living in 3 bedroom house in Tallaght somewhere.
Smoking 40 cigs a day.
Driving Opel Tigra
28 inch flat screen TV in sitting room.
Absolute lazy sod with no interest in working - being supported by SW.
Should this not be case for SW to investigate?
Yeah - I caught a bit of that show and wondered how she funded her lifestyle. Did they say that she was on SW? I didn't hear that bit. I thought that it was funny how she went from sitting around all day watching TV and smoking to planning to start her own business. Sounded a bit dramatic to me, and maybe setting herself up for disappointment, and I would have thought that paid employment working for somebody else might have been a better first step.Ham Slicer said:
But this would surely still be a hurdle that she would have to overcome if/when she is building up a new business and before she starts making a profit? In fact, I'm sure that many entrepreneurs earn little or nothing for themselves while they build up their businesses so she could be worse off doing this compared to getting paid employment first. Her plan was to start her own business. I just thought that a more realistic goal might be to get paid employment. Even part time. Her mother (who didn't work as far as I know) seemed so concerned about her daughter's future than she might have been amenable to minding the grandchild for a bit if the daughter got a job. I'm not saying that grown adult children should always or necessarily expect this from their parents but it was an obvious alternative childminding possibility.RainyDay said:
What is happening too often for your liking?Purple said:
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daltonr
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I'd be inclined to agree that getting a job (perhaps in the industry she intended to start a business in) would be a better first step. Perhaps her logic was that she could work from home if she ran her own business. Or perhaps she was just talked into spouting about starting her own business by a TV Crew interested in a dramatic story.
I'm sure someone with a bit of spare time could go back over the AAM threads and break down those where you've agreed with people and those where you've disagreed.
While they're at it they could figure out if disagreement is just correlated with you and I being on the same thread, or caused by it.
An alternative strategy would be to post 100 random ovservations over the next year and see what percentage you take the polar oppostive view on. Just a suggestion, if there are any dole bludgers out there with nothing to do....feel free to post your research.
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Yeah, yeah - whatever...daltonr said:I'm sure someone with a bit of spare time could go back over the AAM threads and break down those where you've agreed with people and those where you've disagreed.
While they're at it they could figure out if disagreement is just correlated with you and I being on the same thread, or caused by it.
An alternative strategy would be to post 100 random ovservations over the next year and see what percentage you take the polar oppostive view on. Just a suggestion, if there are any dole bludgers out there with nothing to do....feel free to post your research.
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daltonr
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Was that agreement or disagreement. If we're going to do this properly you'll need to be precise.
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