Key Post UK State Pension - Make voluntary contributions to qualify for UK pension on top of Irish pension

Brid 1990 said:
It does and when you go online and you follow the instructions- choose overseas payments, the following is what I see, top section if you live or work abroad temporarily and second part if live or work abroad permanently, this take you back to the beginning complete the form, or maybe I’m just missing something, sorry for asking again, but can’t seem to see the online transfer option for permanently living abroad. Thanks.
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Hi Brid1990,
That's an interesting change that you have noticed with regard to working abroad temporarily versus working abroad permanently. I will check my notes , but I think it's fair to say that everyone (??) on this forum has used the bank details that they supplied for people who work abroad temporarily... as the words temporarily and permanently seem to be new.
 
DannyBoyD said:
Its directly below; you have the page folded by the look of it.
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This is the full page reason folded as had personal info, can be misleading on my part., sorry.
 

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ohrose said:
Hi Brid1990,
That's an interesting change that you have noticed with regard to working abroad temporarily versus working abroad permanently. I will check my notes , but I think it's fair to say that everyone (??) on this forum has used the bank details that they supplied for people who work abroad temporarily... as the words temporarily and permanently seem to be new.
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Thank you, and for checking.
DannyBoyD said:
Use the reference in the example given
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sorry, my query is not to do with the reference number it’s to do with how to pay if temporarily or permanently living status, you will see on top of page, finding it difficult to get the info when permanently living abroad, thanks.
 
Coffeeortea said:
Can someone who is 69 apply for this. It looks if I'm reading it right that they can and they pay at the higher rate(class 3). The person in question has 3 years of contributions from the 80s or is it too late now that they are past retirement age. Also would this be back dated if they do qualify. Thanks in advance
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Hi Guys, Just a follow up here if anyone knows
 
Talkinghead said:
I paid my additional NI contributions 2 weeks ago. Out of interest, what are people’s experience of how long it took HMRC to update your online record?
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Just a short update. I phoned +44 191 203 7010 today (25 min hold) and they advised that they received my payment on 3 May and that it will take approx 6 more weeks for my online record to be updated. As I owe 1 more year to receive full pension, I was advised that they will write to me in 2025 to collect the final payment. I paid using Revolut to sort code 08 32 20, account 12001004. The account name is HMRC NIC RECEIPTS. Finally my reference was my NI number followed by IC and then my name, e.g., AB123456ZICMURPHYA
 
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Mulder said:
Just a short update. I phoned +44 191 203 7010 today (25 min hold) and they advised that they received my payment on 3 May and that it will take approx 6 more weeks for my online record to be updated. As I owe 1 more year to receive full pension, I was advised that they will write to me in 2025 to collect the final payment. I paid using Revolut to sort code 08 32 20, account 12001004. The account name is HMRC NIC RECEIPTS. Finally my reference was my NI number followed by IC and then my name, e.g., AB123456ZICMURPHYA
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Hi Mulder.

Thanks for that update. I just did the same last week so that gives me a bit of confidence that all will work out fine.

Just a note to anyone else reading this, the sort code and acc number I was given was different. So make sure you use the info on the letter you are sent which it seems is specific to the individual.
 
Mulder said:
Just a short update. I phoned +44 191 203 7010 today (25 min hold) and they advised that they received my payment on 3 May and that it will take approx 6 more weeks for my online record to be updated. As I owe 1 more year to receive full pension, I was advised that they will write to me in 2025 to collect the final payment. I paid using Revolut to sort code 08 32 20, account 12001004. The account name is HMRC NIC RECEIPTS. Finally my reference was my NI number followed by IC and then my name, e.g., AB123456ZICMURPHYA
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Hi Mulder, That's interesting. Are you paying from abroad? I thought the account details above were for those people paying from a UK bank account. Maybe you could clarify also if it was a Sterling Revolut account ? HMRC advised me that it would take up to 30 weeks before the funds were allocated to my NI number. I have paid from abroad to the other account listed on their website (i.e. (IBAN) - GB49 BARC 2020 4830 9447 93 ). 6 weeks v 30 weeks is a big difference.
 
ohrose said:
Hi Mulder, That's interesting. Are you paying from abroad? I thought the account details above were for those people paying from a UK bank account. Maybe you could clarify also if it was a Sterling Revolut account ? HMRC advised me that it would take up to 30 weeks before the funds were allocated to my NI number. I have paid from abroad to the other account listed on their website (i.e. (IBAN) - GB49 BARC 2020 4830 9447 93 ). 6 weeks v 30 weeks is a big difference.
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Before paying, I saw that the HMRC website gave the above details but stated that this IBAN should be used if you live or work abroad temporarily. Given that I am permanently based in Ireland I gave HMRC a call and queried it. I was told that I could use the sort code and account number suitable for UK banks if my bank allowed me to directly input the UK Sort Code and Account Number. Revolut does that so I used Revolut with the only noteworthy change is that I edited the reference from “sent via Revolut” to my NI number etc. as per my original post. It seems to have worked fine based on my conversation with HMRC today. Hence my post.
 
Good shout to call HMRC for clarification on the temporarily v permanently living status. I am permanently based in Ireland too. This temporarily v permanently living status classification was noticed by Brid1990 in the last week also. It wasn't there a few weeks ago when I transferred funds. I have a printout of the same web page that has no information relating to temporarily/permanently. So it looks like there is now another way of paying that has the potential side effect of a bonus that the funds get allocated a lot quicker. (Strange that being permanently abroad you are advised to use the UK account details and the result is potentially faster allocation of your NIC contributions. I can't quite figure that in my head, especially as all recent written correspondence from HMRC advised to use the IBAN GB49 BARC 2020 4830 9447 93). Let us know if your funds get allocated in about 6 weeks time.
 
Will do.

Worth mentioning, I live in Dublin but I wanted a GBP account last year as Barclays was closing the account I had when I was living in UK. I had no problem opening one with Bank of Ireland in Northern Ireland. I intend to have HMRC pay my pension into that account when the time comes. My BOI account incurs no monthly maintenance fees.
 
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Interesting contribution by Eoin McGee today on Claire Byrne and he said you had to have paid for the buy back by April 2025 rather than having made the application and pending a reply. If true with the delays we are approaching the cut off point here
 
Skyline said:
I paid for 17 years additional contributions by Revolut in mid January '24 and my forecast has been fully updated today after two earlier partial updates.
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Great to know that. I just sent a £5 test payment before I saw your comment. As an FYI to others, there is an additional reference area in Revolut where you can enter the HMRC requirement - your National Insurance number followed by ‘IC’, your surname then your initial.
Skyline said:
I paid for 17 years additional contributions by Revolut in mid January '24 and my forecast has been fully updated today after two earlier partial updates.
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